50" or bigger TV?

One thing to consider with av forums reviews - these guys aren't gamers. There's rarely a mention of how plasma struggle with 30fps or anything re. phosphor lag, which is most obvious and ugly as hell in many games. They now write phosphor lag off as something you just have to put up with with the tech and don't mention it. Measuring black levels and how accurate colours are is one thing, but failing to mention green/yellow/blue fringing during motion when measuring motion accuracy is ridiculous. I don't buy that only some people see it either - every person i've pointed phosphor lag out to sees it clearly. Whether it bothers you or not, or if you just don't notice it, is another thing. But it's there on the screen. One reviews decent PQ isn't always anothers.
 
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Psycho Sonny said:
Okay so there is no like for like LCD anywhere near the price of the LG, okay here is another set which is even better PQ than the LG for only slightly more:

Samsung PS60F5500 is £930

That is a better quality 60 inch Plasma than the LG

how much is the equivalent PQ 60" LCD of that tv then?

http://www.avforums.com/review/samsung-ps60f5500-plasma-tv-review.9595

even AVforums say it beats the pants off LCD's at 4-5 times it's price range

"That is an excellent result and surpasses the performance of all the 4K LED TVs we’ve tested recently, for some perspective. For further perspective, those TVs will cost you between 4 or 5 times the entry price of the F5500

When buying plasma you usually go for bang for buck, the ZT65B is not a bang for buck tv, it's overpriced compared to a VT65B but there are no LCD's anywhere near the level of those tv's in terms of PQ.

You cannot get a TV which even compares to those models in LCD, they don't exist.
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Very well taken out of context on the review quote lol

It has better blacks like 99% of plasmas do they then go on to say it has pretty bad image retention? As the OP is planning to use with an HTPC and a PS4 I'd stay the hell away from plasmas in general. Plasmas do films better for much lower than LCD no doubt, add in using a PC desktop and then gaming and technology plus points fall much further into LCD (not inc the sets with ridiculous input lag, there's bad sets for both types). A lot of people seem to always fall back on better blacks, fine but a decent LCD's aren't bad.

Have a look at the Sony 653/4 I believe it is in the biggest you can afford.
 
Well the op wants a 50" for as cheap as possible.

The review also states under normal usage it isn't noticeable.

If you run the TV in and limit static images as much as you can and vary the usage then image retention isn't an issue.

If you have a lot of static images and black borders then plasma isn't for you
 
Which would have been better said much earlier in the thread without all the Plasma push.

The OP wants to use it for Sky (Plasma wins), HTPC (LCD wins) and PS4 gaming (Plasma isn't bad but this particular mentioned plasma does suffer from image retention so game HUD's etc probably wouldn't be great for it - I also believe when they say it was rarely viewable in typical use they are referring to the retention image being visible during normal use which is fair enough but it could happen on a PC desktop quite easily and that's a lot of static icons to not notice for me).

A 55" LCD would be better than a 60" Plasma in this situation unless the OP is planning on watching 75% TV and films and doesn't use the PC desktop aside from opening a program and playing a movie.

I have always wanted a plasma but due to using my TV as my monitor it was never a wise decision despite watching a lot of movies and TV shows.

If the OP can stump the £930 for the plasma I would go with the Sony KDL-55W805 £70 more but 55" and will suit all the OP's uses although it will definately look worse with Sky than the Plasma (but that doesn't mean bad), my friend has the 50" lower model and it is stunning when set up correctly.

Entirely the OP's choice but the Plasma push in here with not much mention of the potential negatives in the OP's specific case was frustrating :p
 
Owned my Panasonic 50ST60 a month now. Its awesome. Movies, sports ect are superb. Gaming on my xbox 360 is very good, only played gta 5 though. I researched this tv, and promised, anti glare screen, no image retention, and no burn in issues were all true. I use as pc monitor half the day, and is on a still image for ages. Best £800 I ever spent.
 
Just to clarify - my usage will be as follows;

Sky - obviously for TV shows
HTPC - only to watch TV shows and movies that I have saved, never for PC gaming
PS3 - I don't actually own a PS3 game at the moment, it's used as a BluRay player for movies. Once every few months I play a game for a few hours, so basically 0 gaming.

As you can see, the TV will not be used for gaming in the slightest and will just be used for TV and films.

TV usage is probably 33% sport (football), 33% standard TV shows and 33% films - 1% everything else.
 
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A plasma TV is nice until you get a permanent screen burn and your £1000 set is ruined.

Seen it a hundred times. I work in product support. It can be subtitles or a channel logo too, not just "desktop from pc".

I would never recommend the tech to anyone for anything except watching movies in a dedicated room.. but then you could just but a projector instead.
 
Peerzy said:
Just to clarify - my usage will be as follows;

Sky - obviously for TV shows
HTPC - only to watch TV shows and movies that I have saved, never for PC gaming
PS3 - I don't actually own a PS3 game at the moment, it's used as a BluRay player for movies. Once every few months I play a game for a few hours, so basically 0 gaming.

As you can see, the TV will not be used for gaming in the slightest and will just be used for TV and films.

TV usage is probably 33% sport (football), 33% standard TV shows and 33% films - 1% everything else.
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Samsung PS60F5500 is £930 and their is a detailed review over at AVforums about the tv.

60 inches so the biggest your going to get without effecting PQ much

Plasma - better blacks than LCD's meaning better PQ

£930 - that is a lot of screen for the money you probably won't need to upgrade for 10 years

This is the only TV I would consider with a budget of around £900

otherwise your looking at a 51" F5500 is around £780 so the extra £150 gets you a much bigger panel.

get the 60" F5500 for your use so long as ambient lighting or sunlight is not an issue.
 
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