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2500k getting a bit long in the tooth?

reason i mentioned this is so many with i7s used to belittle i5 users for saying its so much better on bf 3/4 because of hyper threading there is NO proof of this !

i have asked the very top people who work on the Frostbite engine and they cant say it does so it is indeed HYPE r threading at its best :p
 
~>Dg<~ said:
reason i mentioned this is so many with i7s used to belittle i5 users for saying its so much better on bf 3/4 because of hyper threading there is NO proof of this !

i have asked the very top people who work on the Frostbite engine and they cant say it does so it is indeed HYPE r threading at its best :p
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Well if the cpu usage goes down with the 2 virtual cores from the i7, that means bf3/4 cant handle more then 4 cores...... or it handles more then 4 cores but doesn't need them, so lowers the overall cpu usage.
 
Cos that is the only diff between the i5/i7 is that the i7 has the 4 extra virtual cores and without these it would be basically a i5, as theres no other diff between the cpu's
 
yup - one has to understand the way hyperthreading works means it's not actually additional cores but a 'cheating method'.

Hyperthreading uses spare cpu cycles to fool the OS into thinking its got double the cores. In effectg if an app is already using the full cpu cycles on all four cores then you will get 0 benefit of hyperthreading.... not sure though how often apps use full cpu cycles though!
 
Reading this makes me stupid.
For gaming
5ghz i5 > 4.6 ghz i7

Cores are VIRTUAL.....
 
zoomee said:
yup - one has to understand the way hyperthreading works means it's not actually additional cores but a 'cheating method'.

Hyperthreading uses spare cpu cycles to fool the OS into thinking its got double the cores. In effectg if an app is already using the full cpu cycles on all four cores then you will get 0 benefit of hyperthreading.... not sure though how often apps use full cpu cycles though!
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8 real cores would be awesome but very, very expensive Im guessing.
 
I've got a 2600k & 2700k and I don't see any cpu's that are really worth upgrading to. Going to see what Intel bring to the table...hopefully they'll make amends on the heatspreader as well.
 
rolypolyman said:
Have you considered the xeon 1230v2 as an alternative to the expensive i7 3770k, basically its an i7 without the onboard gpu. Hidden gem if you ask me, just make sure you get the right one, with hyperthreading. :)
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You caught my interest with this, but after some googling it seems that the 1230v2 isnt unlocked? Makes it a bit pointless to compare against the 3770k. A better comparison would be the normal 3770, but even that still has a higher clock speed than the xeon chip.
 
I had a 4.5Ghz 2500k and it had no problem driving a pair of 780's on a 1440p screen. Tbh upgrading to a 4770k setup was a waste of money as I saw no real gains gaming.
 
MOOGLEYS said:
I had a 4.5Ghz 2500k and it had no problem driving a pair of 780's on a 1440p screen. Tbh upgrading to a 4770k setup was a waste of money as I saw no real gains gaming.
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I found it to be less of an issue on the brief stint i had when gaming at 2560x1440. My normally used screen is a 1920x1200 model. Cpu was a 3570k and sli 670's. Only borrowed the larger screen from a friend as i was looking to get one at the time.
 
Was just starting to think about upgrading my system but after reading this think I will just upgrade the Gfx card to a 290 and wait to see whats on the horizon for the rest.
 
vantastic said:
Good point, so i guess im limited to one gpu.:(
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I don't think that is entirely true. It will only bottleneck in some games at ultra setting. I am running a 2500K @ 5ghz (under water) with 7950s (also under water) in crossfire an dth eonly gmaes I have seen bottlenecks in on ultra thus far are bf3 and bf4 on the 64 man maps, if I turn the settings down from ultra there is no bottleneck.

So i think it depends on the game and the settings. I am running a dell ultrawide 2560 x 1080 and the 2500K is still kickcing ass and taking numbers.
 
wildman said:
I don't think that is entirely true. It will only bottleneck in some games at ultra setting. I am running a 2500K @ 5ghz (under water) with 7950s (also under water) in crossfire an dth eonly gmaes I have seen bottlenecks in on ultra thus far are bf3 and bf4 on the 64 man maps, if I turn the settings down from ultra there is no bottleneck.

So i think it depends on the game and the settings. I am running a dell ultrawide 2560 x 1080 and the 2500K is still kickcing ass and taking numbers.
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I had no noticeable in game issues. At 2560x1440 ultra settings it was lovely and smooth at all times.

Without using benchmarks or monitoring tools I could not see a difference on BF3 or 4, 64 player multi with SLi 780 either using a 4.5Ghz 2500k or 4.6Ghz 4770k.

Turning HT off on the 4770k made no noticeable difference.

The only time I could see anything was using synthetic benchmark utils.
 
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MOOGLEYS said:
I had no noticeable in game issues. At 2560x1440 ultra settings it was lovely and smooth at all times.

Without using benchmarks or monitoring tools I could not see a difference on BF3 or 4, 64 player multi with SLi 780 either using a 4.5Ghz 2500k or 4.6Ghz 4770k.

Turning HT off on the 4770k made no noticeable difference.

The only time I could see anything was using synthetic benchmark utils.
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This is what I don't get... If games are running nice and smooth, does it matter if theres a bottleneck? Some people are more bothered about benchmarking and frames per second, then actual gaming I think?
 
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I think most of us will be using our 2*00k cpus till 2015 (or longer if Skylake doesn't offer any real gains)

Is Broadwell coming 1st or 4th quarter of this year?
 
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