Yes. People just don't want to do them!
2994 jobs there within just 20 miles of Plymouth which is a small city in Devon !!!
Oh dear, the benefit scroungers are scared!
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Yes. People just don't want to do them!
2994 jobs there within just 20 miles of Plymouth which is a small city in Devon !!!
I don't have issue with anyone who works, at any level.
I have issue with people who DON'T work at all.
Given what you just said, how is it fair then that people on min wage have to pay high rent with no chance of saving for a way onto the property ladder, when people who can't be bothered to work get given a house for free and all they have to pay is council tax, which comes out of their other money that is given to them?
yep cos that doesn't happen in the UK at all... lol
The state doesn't stigmatise such behaviour, it subsidises it. The social stigma these days is absolutely minimal in comparison with japan.
Hence why I do not advocate removing the welfare state, but changing it to remove or minimise the problems it causes. No system can force people to work without massive authoritarian behaviour, but it can ensure that those in work will always be rewarded for it against those who do not, which is the big place where our current system falls down.
You are seriously deluded if you believe that website, half of those jobs will be Avon catalogue sellers and other similar "self employed" positions.
When you include the number of people who are underemployed, the proportion of people who can't find a job is probably more like 15%.
That's the official government job seeker site.
I think he knows what it is. It doesn't change the facts.
For example, the first result:
Although well researched evidence to back up your claims isn't exactly something you're known for.
I'm convinced that you're some sort of script that just posts crap randomly picked from a selection of "I hate poor people", "anyone who gets anything from the state is stealing out my pocket", "people should be grateful for their zero hours contract that gives them 3 hours of work per week after an hour of travel", "I'm doing alright for myself so it can't be difficult for anyone".
Because you never seem to defend any of your points, you just post post post. If you aren't a bot then you're probably one of the nastiest, most selfish and morally bankrupt people I've ever had the misfortune of conversing with.
For example, the first result:
Although well researched evidence to back up your claims isn't exactly something you're known for.
I'm convinced that you're some sort of script that just posts crap randomly picked from a selection of "I hate poor people", "anyone who gets anything from the state is stealing out my pocket", "people should be grateful for their zero hours contract that gives them 3 hours of work per week after an hour of travel", "I'm doing alright for myself so it can't be difficult for anyone".
Because you never seem to defend any of your points, you just post post post. If you aren't a bot then you're probably one of the nastiest, most selfish and morally bankrupt people I've ever had the misfortune of conversing with.
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Doesn't matter. Catalogue distributor will bring in a few quid twice a year.
Most of the "jobs" posted on that site are agency's that don't actually have a position for you, they are simply boosting their books.
- Search Job Vacancies - Agency
- UK Recruitment Service - Agency
- Adzuna - A job search website!
- PK Prospekts - Just ... Just look at their website
Then after you filter out all the non-jobs, start working on the ones that the majority can't even apply for. Teachers, engineers, plumbers etc. All need qualifications most people on benefits simply do not have.
Why is it when you don't agree with someone about anything, you try your best to belittle them or insult them, instead of having a mature discussion on something you always go for the person behind the post. It is incredibly sad and makes me wonder how far it will get you in life. Honestly I think it won't be long until it gets you in hospital, if you treat people off the computer the same way you do online. Grow up
Yes, exactly. It goes to show how bad this countries job market truly is and pretty much refutes this entire thread and probably everything you've ever posted on this forum.
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Why is it when you don't agree with someone about anything, you try your best to belittle them or insult them, instead of having a mature discussion on something you always go for the person behind the post. It is incredibly sad and makes me wonder how far it will get you in life. Honestly I think it won't be long until it gets you in hospital, if you treat people off the computer the same way you do online. Grow up
Because there is zero point trying to hold any sort of mature discussion with you. You leave threads you started and then return to post the forum equivalent of a soundbite based on your perceptions rather than reality and ignore any counter points. People have tried to argue with your posts rather than the person behind them but you tend to disregard it because it doesn't fit your narrow viewpoint.
You want people out of work to get a job yet claim you would never employ someone who had been out of work for longer than three months (you said benefits but I'm assuming you mean JSA otherwise I guess you'd never employ someone with children), and hate the idea of housing benefit but want to move to the north west and buy some houses to do up with the view of renting them out. Presumably to people in receipt of housing benefit if you look at the economy up there. You are "I'm alright Jack" distilled into a forum account.
A mature discussion is debating based on facts. If you consider Japan to have no welfare for people out of work, that removing housing benefit and making people homeless solves a problem, and the government job search website to be 100% real positions that people are too lazy to apply for then it's impossible to have this debate.
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I appreciate sarcasm doesn't come across too well on the Internet but come on..
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Owned.
But you just flat out don't reply to any post that actually add to the debate. You are given valid counter points and you just ignore them to have a pop at someone.
There is an ignore function, click here and I'll be added to yours.
But surely you wanted to debate points rather then get into an argument about the person? If I'm only quoting half of what you say then here's a great opportunity to make me look like a fool.
But surely you wanted to debate points rather then get into an argument about the person? If I'm only quoting half of what you say then here's a great opportunity to make me look like a fool.
I'm afraid caged is right on the money and the fact that you seem put any credence in the gutter trash TV that CH4 happily spew out for £3 per episode says a lot.
Yes owned, many people have provided counter points and statistics that completely disprove what you're saying and you've just ignored them, rather than having a discussion.
First of all, a relatively small proportion are actually "trapped" as unemployed - there is lot of cycling in and out of low-pay jobs. Those who are "trapped" are usually trapped for reasons other than the benefit system. Of course there are dole bludgers, but the numbers are small fraction of those claiming. And the amount paid on JSA is a small fraction of the benefits budget, a significant proportion of which is the government subsidising companies to pay bad wages. In some case the company could easily afford to pay more, but why bother when tax payers will top up the wages for you? More profit for the CEO's bonus, and the shareholders.
Not for the first time (although it might seem like it) I agree with what you propose in principle. But like all those other times, only in principle. The problem is, the government doesn't want to design the benefit system in any kind of logical way, it just wants to cut the bill by any means it can - but in such a way that the cuts only affect people who would never vote for it. To help achieve that, it demonizes people who have very little to do with the economic mess. That mess was caused by banks let lose by successive governments. Recovery was undermined by some bad decisions taken beforehand by Labour, then holed below the waterline by the stupid austerity plans from the government. Austerity which is only applied to those who can least afford it. Someone more cynical than myself might think it was more about putting the poor in their place than about saving money. Especially as many of the moves will cost more than they save, or break even if the Tories are lucky.
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Yes. People just don't want to do them!
2994 jobs there within just 20 miles of Plymouth which is a small city in Devon !!!
I use that site daily, if you really sit and look through the ads instead of posting the main page and proudly proclaiming there are 2994 jobs you would see that a LOT of them are spam and repeat posts.
There are a lot of dodgy looking websites you wouldn't trust with your email/identity.
I see http://www.searchjobvacancies.co.uk/ "jobs" posted multiple times every other day and there are at least 4-5 other sites just like it designed to harvest user data.
Then there are the self employed vacancies that are part time and you only earn money if you actually sell something from the catalogue the advert asks you to deliver.
All of these are reposted sometimes every day, that whole service is a shambles when it actually works it doesn't track my job applications properly, companies ask me for cover letter but when you click apply there is no actual way of attaching a cover letter, only the CV which is stored for anyone to see.
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