BMW 1 series service interval - potential argument with main dealer!

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Right, I am well aware that I may have screwed up a bit here but the principal is what I'm looking to get to the bottom of here as I may well end up in an argument so I'd like to be armed!

I bought a 123d around March last year from Sytner Sunningdale, it was approved used obviously so I assumed, possibly incorrectly that either everything would be up to snuff or BMW would fix it, either way I was on BMW finance and had bought a BMW from BMW, I knew I'd paid a bit more but I like the peace of mind.

It had 53k on it when I bought it.

It now has 72k on it and is nagging at me for a service just as I thought it would so I dug out the service book just to see if it was the 3rd oil service as that's more expensive, assuming it wasn't given the mileage.

Anyway, upon checking the service book it turn out the last stamp was in December of 2011 at 36k! More fool me for not checking I know but again I kind of assumed that this would all be fine otherwise they wouldn't be able to sell it as approved used.

So I called them today and after a lot of arguing they finally managed to figure out it had been serviced at 52k but they hadn't stamped the book but they're insisting it had the air con and brakes done and that was it, meaning (if they're correct) that it's had the same oil for almost 40k.

Is that even possible without it breaking? And I'm guessing either way its well out of spec?

Basically I see there are a few possibilities..

1) They reset everything at the last service by mistake meaning this is the 3rd oil service and its way out of spec.

2) They actually did the proper service meaning this is the 4th service but made a total balls of recording it properly

3) Someone reset it before they traded it in and BMW didn't bother checking the book or the history and just sold it on to me.

Just wondering

a) if it should still even be working
b) does the condition based servicing know if the oil is ****ed and would start throwing up warnings with 40k old oil in there
c) as part of the whole approved used thing are BMW kind of supposed to be on this meaning I have some recourse

etc etc..

And for the record, yes I know I should have checked, I was blasé having been in the whole main dealer approved used thing for years, lesson learned in that respect but I just want to know roughly where I stand before I go into battle with them tomorrow.
 
It now has 72k on it and is nagging at me for a service

So I called them today and after a lot of arguing they finally managed to figure out it had been serviced at 52k but they hadn't stamped the book, meaning (if they're correct) that it's had the same oil for almost 40k.



52k miles to 72k miles isn't 40k ;)
 
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If your car has just told you it needs a service and you've gone to book it in then I don't see that you're in error. No way should BMW have sold you a car with a service overdue.

In fact they probably have some assurance that they don't sell cars with less than "X" miles to a service.
 
no sorry perhaps I wasn't clear, the book says the last time the oil was done was 36k, they say they serviced it before I collected it but only the air con and brakes NOT the oil at 53k.

So basically the book and the dealer are both saying the oil hasn't been changed for about 40k.
 
If your car has just told you it needs a service and you've gone to book it in then I don't see that you're in error. No way should BMW have sold you a car with a service overdue.

In fact they probably have some assurance that they don't sell cars with less than "X" miles to a service.

exactly, 120 checks apparently, I would assume one amongst are the lights and wipers working is is it about to expire in a puff of smoke because its overdue an oil service!
 
Do BMW change the oil every service.

I'm sure the wife's MINI was change at the first service, check and top up at the second service and change again at the third service.

Rinse and repeat
 
Either way, anyone any other views on where I stand with this and if my car would be functioning normally if they hadn't done the oil service?
 
lol?

I'm actually missing something here if this is the case.

I'll have to check the service book and see what they ticked off as complete at each service, however I am 75% sure the oil hasn't been changed at every service probably wrong though.

Never had an issue with warranty though so whatever my local BMW dealer did it didn't affect that and it's had some warranty repairs on the engine in the past.
 
Interesting, i use them to service my e91. I always thought their customer service was good.

Surely the bmw system should be able to tell you what they have done? Also I didnt know about the different types of oil servicing? I thought if the conditon based system says that the engine oil needs servicing, thats just the same old service of drain and replace, plus oil filter etc. Is it not?
 
The car tells you when you need an oil service and logs when its reset(same with all CBS items). If it hasn't told you until now they must have reset it, now if they are saying it didn't have an oil service when you bought it they sold it without a full service history if the oil service had been reset. You need to talk to the dealer principle but first i would phone BMW UK, they are really hot on this sort of thing and once its logged with them they will contact the dealer to find out the score. It helps massively to get buy in from the dealer. If its as you say I would want some sort of payback as the car now has the service missing and it isn't your fault.
 
I'll have to check the service book and see what they ticked off as complete at each service, however I am 75% sure the oil hasn't been changed at every service probably wrong though.

Never had an issue with warranty though so whatever my local BMW dealer did it didn't affect that and it's had some warranty repairs on the engine in the past.

It wont be if its Condition Based Service car. You might have an oil service in may then in July it needs the brake fluid done. Thats two services within months, the oil service wont go any longer than 18-20k or two years though.
 
Well that was very straightforward, spoke to the used car manager who pretty much immediately apologised and said he had all the records that everything was done just before I bought it but the person I was speaking to yesterday hadn't checked it properly.

So it had brakes, air con, 3rd oil service, all the filters etc just before I picked it up, just needs a cheapo 4th oil service now :)
 
if any doubt, get rid of the car quickly no matter what.

40k on same oil is bad news...........reduce the engine life span massively.

get rid before too late

its only a car
 
Well that was very straightforward, spoke to the used car manager who pretty much immediately apologised and said he had all the records that everything was done just before I bought it but the person I was speaking to yesterday hadn't checked it properly.

That's exactly what I would say to pacify a customer who is irate due to my own screw up :D Only if I was a main car dealer of course, but I'm just an honest individual so I wouldn't.
 
if any doubt, get rid of the car quickly no matter what.

40k on same oil is bad news...........reduce the engine life span massively.

get rid before too late

its only a car

to be honest, I'm sure they did what they needed to. At the very least you can check the oil levels from the dash which I do from time to time and it's still full, there's no black smoke, it operates exactly as it should and now they're telling me they did everything (it sounded very much like he was reading from a list of jobs) so to be honest I'm prepared to believe them.

Especially considering they did it for sale and they're a main dealer attached to a rolls royce setup, saving £100 on a 1 series service almost certainly isn't worth it for them!
 
There are a lot of cars out there that do 40k on an oil change, servicing is seen as optional to a massive amount of people. It sounds like yours was fine however so i'd not worry.
 
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