Sansung 840 Pro SSD and Over Provisioning

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I installed windows after formatting the whole 128GB and have used about 40GB. Samsung Magician says there is insufficient free space to set up Over Provisiong? Can I do without it?
 
Overprovisioning is utterly pointless, and I wish reviewers would stop writing about it. The ONLY time it comes into play, is if the drive is completely full AND you are thrashing the living daylights out of it, simultaneously. If both those conditions aren't true AT THE SAME TIME, then overprovisioning provides no benefit. And you lose part of your drive -- I just don't get why these "tech tweaks" gain a life of their own.
 
Overprovisioning is utterly pointless, and I wish reviewers would stop writing about it. The ONLY time it comes into play, is if the drive is completely full AND you are thrashing the living daylights out of it, simultaneously. If both those conditions aren't true AT THE SAME TIME, then overprovisioning provides no benefit. And you lose part of your drive -- I just don't get why these "tech tweaks" gain a life of their own.

Ouch. Say what you mean why don't you?
 
That so true tho, plus most people know that they must not fill up a ssd totally, so yeah "Over Provisioning" is totally pointless, unless you know nothing about SSD's.
 
Over provisioning prevents the user filling up their SSD (and therefore possibly reducing performance and the life of the SSD).

No harm in enabling it if you aren't going to be filling your SSD fairly close to capacity. It's a "safety net".
 
Overprovisioning is utterly pointless, and I wish reviewers would stop writing about it. The ONLY time it comes into play, is if the drive is completely full AND you are thrashing the living daylights out of it, simultaneously. If both those conditions aren't true AT THE SAME TIME, then overprovisioning provides no benefit. And you lose part of your drive -- I just don't get why these "tech tweaks" gain a life of their own.

Similarly, airbags in cars are utterly pointless.

The ONLY time they come into play is if the car is involved in a crash AND is travelling at high speed. ;)


Back to Over provisioning. If you lose part of your drive that you should probably avoid using anyway, what's the problem ?

Enabling over provisioning is very useful for me. I can install an SSD into a system and hand it over to the customer and I don't have to add "make sure you don't fill up your SSD to near capcity" to the list of instructions on how to look after their machine. One less thing for me and my customer to "worry" about.
 
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I installed windows after formatting the whole 128GB and have used about 40GB. Samsung Magician says there is insufficient free space to set up Over Provisiong? Can I do without it?

What % of the SSD is Over provisioning trying to enable ?

The default is 10%, which should be about 12GB on your drive. Make sure your have "Recommended" selected when you are trying to enable it.
 
Well I know about SSD's and I O/P my 840 pro. Helps with keeping performance up.


I think the point that some are making is that Over provisioning isn't required if the user makes sure that their SSD doesn't get to being near full. Also, I doubt if having OP enabled on a SSD does bring any perfromance gain under normal circumstances (the SSD is not nearly full). However, as I stated previously, there's no harm in enabling it, as it enables the user to forget about checking that their SSD isn't getting near to capacity. Yes, most of us will occasionally check how much space is left on our drives, but many users will just keep installing apps/saving photos etc until they get a disk space warning. OP prevents these "lazy" users from over filling their SSDs. As such, it's a fairly useful feature to enable.
 
Over provisioning prevents the user filling up their SSD (and therefore possibly reducing performance and the life of the SSD).

No harm in enabling it if you aren't going to be filling your SSD fairly close to capacity. It's a "safety net".

But whats the point is enabling it, if you know that your not going to be filling up the SSD:D
 
Its like having 16 gigs of RAM when you don't use it in it.

What Im saying. If you know you must not fill a SSD totally up, then why bother using the Over Provisioning.

But if your a complete beginner with computers and stuff use over provisioning,, but then again if you dont know much about computers, you prob wont install the samsung software anyway, so the OP is kind of floored and pointless if you look at it that way, as you need the software installed to use the OP.
 
What Im saying. If you know you must not fill a SSD totally up, then why bother using the Over Provisioning.

But if your a complete beginner with computers and stuff use over provisioning,, but then again if you dont know much about computers, you prob wont install the samsung software anyway, so the OP is kind of floored and pointless if you look at it that way, as you need the software installed to use the OP.

Er no. You can just make the partition smaller in disk manager
 
But whats the point is enabling it, if you know that your not going to be filling up the SSD:D

Because it costs nowt to enable OP (just a minute of your time). Once enabled, you don't have to bother making sure you are not filling your SSD too near it's capacity.

The fact is that you can choose yourself to make sure you leave a few % of your SSD empty, or you can enable OP and know that there's no way you'll over fill it.

I stated earlier that it can be a useful feature when installing an SSD for a customer who might not look after their computer like a more experienced user. I`ve installed dozens of SSDs in new and existing systems, I always enable OP, then not worry about warning the customer to avoid running their SSD near capacity.

And yes, it's enabled on my own system. I don't mind the effective capacity being 209GB rather than 232GB, as I woundn't want to keep much more than 209GB on it anyway.

Maybe it's an alpha male thing....... "I`ve got a Samsung SSD, and I haven't enabled Over provisioning". :D
 
And the question that I`ve tried to address is why the OP can't enable OP. ;)

There's been advice that Over provisioning is for beginners, but I'd be slightly concerned as to why it can't be enabled in this case.
 
Er no. You can just make the partition smaller in disk manager

I don't think that would work,, cos the whole point of leaving room free on the SSD, so the SSD isn't writing to the same cells all the time and can write to random cells, increasing the life of the ssd. If the SSD cannot write to random cells, it then prolongs its life by slowing down the drive.
 
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