4930k should it stay or should it go??

Nickolp1974 · 13 Jan 2014 at 12:56

I purchased the intel tuning plan and woud like your opinion

Currently have my chip at 4.63ghz @ 1.45v and ram at 2.4ghz cl9 and pretty tight subs.
Going by Raja's binning results I'd say my chip is average at best, going by his stats you stand a 40% chance of getting one that will do [email protected]
Oh and just to let you know I need 1.56v+ for 4.7ghz!! Ouch!

So my question is would YOU trade it in???

Silent_Scone · 13 Jan 2014 at 13:17

Ouch, that's not a good chip but in reflection of most IVYE chips it's not too much of a shocker.

My 4960x does 4.7 @ 1.4v - 5Ghz+ 1.52v. I'm not sure I'd be too bothered as to trade it in TBH as you could end up with the same or worse :/

Nickolp1974 · 13 Jan 2014 at 13:22

MjFrosty said:
Ouch, that's not a good chip but in reflection of most IVYE chips it's not too much of a shocker.

My 4960x does 4.7 @ 1.4v - 5Ghz+ 1.52v. I'm not sure I'd be too bothered as to trade it in TBH as you could end up with the same or worse :/

Hi bud, if I did get a worse one I'm sure I'd manage 4.5ghz(don't ya think?) and that's not the end of the world, only ever be running 2 gpu's max.
Only cost £16 for the plan and whatever postage is, gotta be worth a shot??

Silent_Scone · 13 Jan 2014 at 13:24

It's hard to say as you know as well as me it's a lottery, but yeah I'd say the odds are in your favour for picking one that can AT LEAST do 4.6 @ 1.4v. I can get 4.5 @ 1.31v so I consider myself quite lucky considering. (I know mines a 4960 so bit different

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Nickolp1974 · 13 Jan 2014 at 13:34

I think the percentages were something like

All at 1.4v

10% <4.4
20% 4.5
40% 4.6
20% 4.7
10% >4.8

Wasn't a big batch, can't remember if it was 50 or 100???

What board are you on frosty??

Scramz · 22 Jan 2014 at 11:58

my 4930k needs 1.36v for 4.6 and I run offset so the volts drop off when not needed.

My 24/7 at the moment is 4.7 with offset max 1.430. When playing BF4 voltage peaked 1.424 volts and average of 1.389 volts whilst gaming for 3-4 hours, hottest cores peaked between 44-56 degrees

Stable on Prime, IBT,Adia and best of all gaming.

I am going to resit my CPU water block as i have a feeling I can drop a few degrees.

I have tested 4.8 @ 1.48 (max volts offset) fully stable. I have intel tuning plan for might try 4.9-5.0 in the 1.5v's see if i hit a wall.

I guess it is just luck of the draw.

Nickolp1974 · 22 Jan 2014 at 22:45

Scramz said:
my 4930k needs 1.36v for 4.6 and I run offset so the volts drop off when not needed.

My 24/7 at the moment is 4.7 with offset max 1.430. When playing BF4 voltage peaked 1.424 volts and average of 1.389 volts whilst gaming for 3-4 hours, hottest cores peaked between 44-56 degrees

Stable on Prime, IBT,Adia and best of all gaming.

I am going to resit my CPU water block as i have a feeling I can drop a few degrees.

I have tested 4.8 @ 1.48 (max volts offset) fully stable. I have intel tuning plan for might try 4.9-5.0 in the 1.5v's see if i hit a wall.

I guess it is just luck of the draw.

Yours appears better than mine, 4.8 is great on one of these chips, for me i nearly need 1.58v for 4.7 and its not fully stable

temps are fine volts are not!

I wouldn't risk trading in your chip at all.

What mobo are you on scramz?

Rroff · 22 Jan 2014 at 23:34

Are you sure it vcore thats limiting you? and not one of the additional voltages or RAM strap or something like that?

Nickolp1974 · 23 Jan 2014 at 07:34

Rroff said:
Are you sure it vcore thats limiting you? and not one of the additional voltages or RAM strap or something like that?

Positive, i always keep my ram at 1600 before oc'ing, tried sa,vtt from 1.15v-1.35v and all maner of digi combinations.
I'm at my wall with my current 4.63 oc anything over requires masses of extra voltage.
I'm not temp limited in any way.
Tried the 0020 bios and whatever is the latest, results pretty much the same.

pgi947 · 23 Jan 2014 at 07:47

Are you just working on the multi or have you pushed up the base and straps nick?

You have no luck with chips

Nickolp1974 · 23 Jan 2014 at 08:24

pgi947 said:
Are you just working on the multi or have you pushed up the base and straps nick?

You have no luck with chips

everything!!! 125 strap nets me my best results, 100 strap requires more voltage for the same clock.

i normally test multi at a voltage i'm comfortable with, say 1.4v and keep going up until crash, set multi to previous good one then work on the base clock.
Then time to work on the ram!!

and your right, i have no luck with my chips

my classy's were pretty good mind, but i sold 'em

I don't think my RIVF is at fault it's still a very capable board.

Going to contact intel today and try my luck again!!! my plan became active yesterday

8 Pack · 23 Jan 2014 at 09:45

Your not benching for records so I dont see any issue here at all.

Nickolp1974 · 23 Jan 2014 at 10:17

Mr 8 Pack us "amateur" overclockers do bench for records be it personal or on a FUN leaderboard. There are many people on this very forum that do this, like you we enjoy it and maximise what we can. Just because we don't use LN2 we are not inferior!! I respect you greatly, your a helpful chap and i have learned quite a bit from you for which i'm grateful. You have enough knowledge of these chips to make a better informative post than....

8 Pack said:
Your not benching for records so I dont see any issue here at all.

8 Pack · 23 Jan 2014 at 13:19

You need to bin CPU properly then if this is the case. Get a method for picking out good. Buy a large number and sell on ones that don't pass your bin. This is costly but what I used to do before I worked at OCUK etc.

With Ivy E the percentages are against you and you got a chip that falls into the 40% bracket which most are. I have 4, 5ghz at 1.4 after testing a lot. Its always the same only if you pay the money do you get the choice.

To swop one for one = pointless as the odds are against the replacement being any better. Afew mhz better can be made up by efficiency when benching in any case.

Scramz · 23 Jan 2014 at 14:05

Nickolp1974 said:
Yours appears better than mine, 4.8 is great on one of these chips, for me i nearly need 1.58v for 4.7 and its not fully stable temps are fine volts are not!

I wouldn't risk trading in your chip at all.

What mobo are you on scramz?

I am running on a bog standard Asus P9X79. I was looking at buying a RIVE but I dont thing the cost will be worth the 50mhz i may gain.

8 Pack · 23 Jan 2014 at 21:12

1.5 and these are degrading fast!! Those Voltys are LN2 volts not water cooling or ambient stuff.

Silicon torture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nickolp1974 · 23 Jan 2014 at 22:20

8 Pack said:
1.5 and these are degrading fast!! Those Voltys are LN2 volts not water cooling or ambient stuff.

Silicon torture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats the idea!

If i had a good one i wouldn't do it, and i'm gonna take my chance with another, but odds are that i'm gonna get one about the same, i may get lucky, you never know. Either way i shall be looking after the next one.

Doug2507 · 24 Jan 2014 at 12:23

8 Pack said:
1.5 and these are degrading fast!! Those Voltys are LN2 volts not water cooling or ambient stuff.

Silicon torture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You reckon that's still alright for a bench chip or just a no go full stop? i.e, degrading how fast? (only for CB/XTU runs)

8 Pack · 24 Jan 2014 at 13:36

XTU and CB degrade fast!!!!!!!!!!!! No 1.5 is too much on good silicon at ambient temps.

Doug2507 · 24 Jan 2014 at 20:18

Ah well, good to know, i was planning on taking it the other side of 1.5v to push hard! 1.45v it is then. For now at least.