Fibre connection

dasyad said:
I'd hate to live somewhere that left me locked in to one ISP
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Where I live we get 1mb satellite wireless internet (at 40euro a month)....at best we get 200kb at anyone time..(joys of rural life)

I miss my 120gb Virgin connection, I went from D/L a HD 1080p film in 15mins to 3days.

Hell, a 30sec Youtube video now buffers :(
 
maccapacca said:
Thanks that's useful, I think I'll check also what we've signed up to for the Shared Ownership apartments as well, we may have agreed to provide copper.
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I think you'll find that if people are paying 800-18mil(did you mean 1.8mil?), won't care if they can only use BT, if it's also the single fastest option they can get their hands on.

IF you tell people you can only use "random ISP" where their speeds are 1/4 that the top ISP can provide, they'd probably be uppity about it. But BT offer the highest speeds, and will continue to be first to every new highest speed in terms of what BT can do rather than Virgin, but Virgin have a pretty limited install base and no one expects to be able to get that really.

The only downside of BT from my experience is price, being first to every speed bump is a huge upside. If the flats were going to be 50-200k, and the customers were all being told they'd have to go with an expensive super fast broadband option and they couldn't get some cheapo £5 a month option, that could be a problem. But 800k and up flats/apartments, I'd say that demographic is looking for the highest speed internet and won't be bothered they can't get the cheapest package.
 
There are things more important than speed alone, like reliability, customer service, traffic shaping and website blocking.
 
I'm on Sky Fibre. The fibre is delivered over BT Openreach who come and install their modem first and then they connect the Sky router to the BT router.

You can go to the Sky site and use their checker if Sky have fibre in the area, this will be down to Sky as they would need to have switches installed in the local exchange.
 
Wish you built our new house, Internet was the last thing on their minds, we only get 2meg
 
In terms of future proofing Openreach (BT) provided FTTP is about as good as you can possibly get, as even if they are 'exclusive' for the time being (I'm not convinced this is true), it will have to be accessible to other providers in the medium term.
 
The Geezer said:
I'm on Sky Fibre. The fibre is delivered over BT Openreach who come and install their modem first and then they connect the Sky router to the BT router.

You can go to the Sky site and use their checker if Sky have fibre in the area, this will be down to Sky as they would need to have switches installed in the local exchange.
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You are on Sky FTTC, the OP is talking about FTTP.
 
If you go the BT fiber route then you will have to run old style copper phone ports in to every apartment and give each apartment its own phone line. This is usually best because then apartment owners can purchase their own fiber or ADSL2 if they want cheaper internet. But it may mean you have to pay for a phone box in the basement that handles all the different lines. The other alternative would be to wire each house up with virgin media cable if your area is supported.

If it was more of a shared accommodation place like a student place, then you could get some proper fiber. Say a 100mbit bearer and then split that up between the houses. But i wouldn't recommend that as you have to maintain it and so on and it costs £5000 per year+
 
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The Geezer said:
I'm on Sky Fibre. The fibre is delivered over BT Openreach who come and install their modem first and then they connect the Sky router to the BT router.

You can go to the Sky site and use their checker if Sky have fibre in the area, this will be down to Sky as they would need to have switches installed in the local exchange.
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You don't fibre in your premises, you still use cooper to connect to a box down the road which is on a fibre link. This is a significantly different product.
 
There's a lot of misinformation in this thread. When Openreach build a new fibre-only site they really mean that - you don't get a copper phone line. You get 2 voice ports on the fibre termination equipment which can be used to make phone calls, but for obvious reasons they can't be used for ADSL or FTTC.

For now BT are the only supplier that I am aware of that provide services over FTTP/FVA, but there's nothing stopping Sky, Zen, TalkTalk getting on board. Chances are by the time these apartments are finished there will be at least one more option.

And yes, FTTP is commercially available in areas where it is installed, it's way past the trials stage.
 
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