XFX DD 290X benched at 4K - Stomps on 780Ti's

darket · 27 Jan 2014 at 13:38

Is it just me or are all these 4k benches completly pointless ? i mean wow the 290 is slightly less crap at 4k than the 780ti, but what actual relevance is it right now ? , i think its shameful that either of these companys market these cards as offering a playable 4k experience.

Surely by the time 4K becomes a reasonable price and a viable alternative to 1080/1440p these cards will be a thing of the past.

Its like comparing Mondeos and Vectras both are rubbish its just one is more rubbish than the other depending on your point of view.

LtMatt · 27 Jan 2014 at 13:42

whyscotty said:
Been looking at these for a while, yep I know they have a bad rep but you only tend to hear about the bad ones.

Plus, for me they are about the best looking ones.

Will have a closer look on their release

Well said. The XFX 7990 you recommended me was brilliant, plus the fact they had uk rma was nice to know. That said i've not had to deal with an rma through them yet and i have heard some bad stories.

BS Dave said:
Does the XDMA make that much difference Matt? i'm hoping once mantle sorts out the irregular CPU frame rates my 7970s will be smooth enough anyway for 1080 @120Hz.

I'm running a Gene V as well so those hot 290s are only gonna get hotter with no spare slots between cards...

Its really nice Dave and i think its the way forward for better crossfire. The Tahiti drivers are more mature though whereas the 290 drivers are immature currently. Perfectly stable though but id expect more performance and better crossfire scaling as they mature. If you don't have any spacing between the cards then i probably wouldn't bother until you upgrade your board.

BS Dave · 27 Jan 2014 at 13:48

but Matt the sapphire 290 tri x is £30 off atm...surely with 2 of those...

LtMatt · 27 Jan 2014 at 13:51

BS Dave said:
but Matt the sapphire 290 tri x is £30 off atm...surely with 2 of those...

It might be ok, can't say for sure mate as ive not tried the cards in question. Reference cards it would be fine, not sure about others. Try it and see. He who dares wins and all that.

Silent_Scone · 27 Jan 2014 at 13:59

darket said:
Is it just me or are all these 4k benches completly pointless ? i mean wow the 290 is slightly less crap at 4k than the 780ti, but what actual relevance is it right now ? , i think its shameful that either of these companys market these cards as offering a playable 4k experience.

Surely by the time 4K becomes a reasonable price and a viable alternative to 1080/1440p these cards will be a thing of the past.

Its like comparing Mondeos and Vectras both are rubbish its just one is more rubbish than the other depending on your point of view.

When you're talking about multi GPU setups though it does become viable. Least if you're willing to pay for the panels

Besty · 27 Jan 2014 at 14:08

I game at 2k on my macbook pro with Intel Iris, 4k gaming is great on these cards with 2 GPU's, even a single GPU is good for slower paced games, it's just some faced paced gpu bound games which suffer.

imo biggest problem regarding 4k is in-game resolution support.

Boomstick777 · 27 Jan 2014 at 14:10

darket said:
Is it just me or are all these 4k benches completly pointless ? i mean wow the 290 is slightly less crap at 4k than the 780ti, but what actual relevance is it right now ? , i think its shameful that either of these companys market these cards as offering a playable 4k experience.

Surely by the time 4K becomes a reasonable price and a viable alternative to 1080/1440p these cards will be a thing of the past.

Its like comparing Mondeos and Vectras both are rubbish its just one is more rubbish than the other depending on your point of view.

Yup, AMD and Nvidia and the entertainment industry as a whole are just plugging 4K as they know 1080P and 1440P res is already very well catered for. They want to sell new cards, TV's, Monitor's every year, so 4K is being plugged everywhere, it's the latest buzzword as the latest and greatest to create a market for even better GPU's, yet virtually no one is gaming at 4k

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We are years away from mass adoption of 4K, by the time it happens the then current graphics cards will be far superior than the likes of the 290X and 780 Ti..

Wizzfizz · 27 Jan 2014 at 14:13

Forget 4k, that's just a stop gap until 8k

darket · 27 Jan 2014 at 14:14

MjFrosty said:
When you're talking about multi GPU setups though it does become viable. Least if you're willing to pay for the panels

I understand that if you're willing to pay a mental sum of money for something that will be old tech and worthless in a year 4k make some sense, but for 99.9% of even hardcore pc gamers its pointless. The way the reviewers bang on about it you'd think that everyone had a 4k pannel already.

Gregster · 27 Jan 2014 at 14:15

Dell have released/going to release a 4K 28" monitor for $699, so it might not be as far away as people think. It does have some caveats though and in particular, 30Hz refresh rate but still shows that 4K is coming.

Silent_Scone · 27 Jan 2014 at 14:16

Again I'd agree for the most part as they've focused way to much on 4K over the last few months. It's like catering for less than 10% of the community when for the most part users want regular results. Review 4K that's fine, but it's been the focal point in too many instances.

Boomstick777 · 27 Jan 2014 at 14:19

Kaz Hirai says that mainstream adoption of 4K TVs could take five to seven years

I imagine Sony's Kaz Hirai has a good idea of how the market will play out..

I think 1080P and 1440P benchmarks are far more relevant to actual gamers than 4K, we are a very long way off 4K even being affordable for the mere mortal man.

Will probably see new 4K capable consoles by the time mainstream adoption takes place.

http://www.pcr-online.biz/news/read...ld-take-seven-years-watch-keynote-here/032893.

JediFragger · 27 Jan 2014 at 14:29

With having bought a 60in Sharp Led TV 18 months ago, I can say with surety that I'm going to get at least another 4 or 5 years out of it. HD pic is fantastic tbh, can't really imagine 4k absolutely blowing me away from 8 feet away

HazardO · 27 Jan 2014 at 14:46

Wizzfizz said:
Forget 4k, that's just a stop gap until 8k

No one will ever need more than 640K

jakspyder · 27 Jan 2014 at 15:16

HazardO said:
No one will ever need more than 640K

well come full circle to 720k, 1080k etc.

Eww the PS11 only plays games at 720k at 30k FPS.

Peasants.

Kaapstad · 27 Jan 2014 at 15:57

Add more cards and those graphs would get interesting

At those settings 4 GTX 780ti's would thrash 4 290Xs on Crysis 3 as the drivers are not good for quadfire on Crysis 3.

BF4 is totally different with very good scaling on 4 290Xs and 100fps average should be achievable on max settings @4K.

Tomb Raider also scales well on both AMD and NVidia 4 way setups but the 290Xs start pulling ahead at higher resolutions.

With 4 Card setups NVidia almost always is very smooth but with the 290Xs in quadfire the framepacing spmetimes is disappointing.

Why don't these review sites use more than two cards for these 4K reviews so we can see realistic fps and get useful info about going 4K.

Mal X · 27 Jan 2014 at 16:03

4K AND OLED will go head to head with only one winner....only OLED is worth having.

mind you, Panny are making a 4K OLED, so who cares.

wazza300 · 27 Jan 2014 at 16:06

but its an xfx....it will break

Mal X · 27 Jan 2014 at 16:16

JediFragger said:
With having bought a 60in Sharp Led TV 18 months ago, I can say with surety that I'm going to get at least another 4 or 5 years out of it. HD pic is fantastic tbh, can't really imagine 4k absolutely blowing me away from 8 feet away

it wont.......you wont notice 4k on a 60'' screen, 4K is for 80'' and over.

you can only improve on the standard 1080p image and that is OLED, it is miles better than anything else, it's not the resolution that counts, it's the P.Q

Games will still look poor on an OLED tv, simply because Games look poor anyway, e.g Crysis is the best graphics we've got, but it still looks rubbish compared to watching the news on an HD TV.

Silent_Scone · 27 Jan 2014 at 16:17

Kaapstad said:
Add more cards and those graphs would get interesting

At those settings 4 GTX 780ti's would thrash 4 290Xs on Crysis 3 as the drivers are not good for quadfire on Crysis 3.

BF4 is totally different with very good scaling on 4 290Xs and 100fps average should be achievable on max settings @4K.

Tomb Raider also scales well on both AMD and NVidia 4 way setups but the 290Xs start pulling ahead at higher resolutions.

With 4 Card setups NVidia almost always is very smooth but with the 290Xs in quadfire the framepacing spmetimes is disappointing.

Why don't these review sites use more than two cards for these 4K reviews so we can see realistic fps and get useful info about going 4K.

I know, it doesn't make any sense. I guess it's a lot of money to throw at a test bed but you'd think one of the vendors would splash out for the chance. 3-4 way would provide acceptable framerates across the board. Would be interesting to see if the gap closes or not, I'm guessing not lol.

If they don't do a 3-4 way Titan Black Edition 4K review then something is very wrong with the world.