I think someone did, but from another angle...they were being fined for leaving their empty wheelie bin on the street, they said it wasn't theirs it belonged to the local authority so was their responsibility. Afaik it was ruled that the wheelie bin was the householders property (supplied FOC by the local authority) and therefore their responsibility.
Ownership and resposnbility aren't the same though, why can't the council own the bin but the resident be resposble for its use (as is the case)? If I hire a car and get flashed by a speed camera, I'm still responsible for that offence despite not owning the car.
In any case the council are effectively dictating what you can and cannot do with the bin they supply and are establishing a set of arbitrary rules on how and when you can put out your rubbish for collection, going do far as to stipulate exactly where a bin should be placed, and when..within often narrow margins. Equally the requirements to sort waste are dictated, not by the WMF, EFW and MBT plants the local authority use, but by the councils decision to alternate weeks when each bin/box is collected...they did this to cut jobs, collections and vehicles (they are cutting a further 4 vehicles and 12 jobs in April and changing the collections again in Sept with a further 21 jobs cut).
I won't comment on your particular cost saving exercises but I have to say I am massively disapointed in you Castiel. I thought you were a person that liked to learn new things and alter your opinion when given new information but it seems that small things like 'facts' are just inconvenient to your ignorant pre-conceived ideas of how this sector works.
Using words like 'arbitary' is just plain ignorant, I've already detailed why most decisions around collection times and methods are made and how they are not just some bloke making things up on a whim to **** you off; but you continue to believe it.
What an MRF site takes and how it receives IS dictated by them, not by the council. This is undisputable and if you think it isn't I'd invite yo to ring your local one up and ask what would happen if a lorry tunred up with mixed materials they counldn't process. According to you they'd just say "nevermind we'll take it anyway and I dunno why the council don't just all collect it together" but you'll soon find that isn't the case, the answer you will get it "we would reject it and send the lorry to the nearest landfill site".
As for presentation rules, sure we'd be happy to come round the back of your house or into your garden but you already detest having to pay pennies a week already, so would you be prepapred to pay more for your CT so we can hire an extra loader for each round to enable it?
Some basic maths for you, each of our rounds service on average 1,100 houses. If our crews (which currently have two loaders and a driver) were to just spend 20 seconds at each one, to go into gardens or down alleyways that would make their rounds 3 hours longer!
It also goes to something you said earlier about the law...local byelaws are set by the council, the requirement for bins to be out in a small window was bought in by the council...they were not forced to do it by someone else as you suggested.
Sigh, I'll try and explain again so you uinderstand.
The rules that dicatate people should not leave their bins out on the path is a general law and not something speciality dreamt up for bins. In fact, the laws states you be storing NOTHING out on the public highway and the ability to do for bins has been added as an exception.
Would you like it if your next door neighbour just left their push bike laying down on the path for a few days or would you complain and except their to be some law regarding it?
