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Not sure why you would want to move to such a backwards country anway. Make sure you buy a gun and expensive health insurance.
Living in California...
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No, I'd much rather live my entire life living in Manchester.
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Manchester is a good place to live. It's in the UK and the EU. It is one of the better cities to live in. Sure I could move to London or another capital but I would never to be able to afford a house.
Also i have lots of friends, family and a good job here. Why would I give that up? I can always go on holiday to other places.
I am posting from the French Alps btw.
I don't think you necessarily have to be really clever or have a very unique skillset. I used to work for a company that branched out to the US and was eventually taken over by a US company. I know of 5-6 "lower/middle managers" who have moved out there.
None necessarily exceptionally talented, they had just worked for the company for ages!
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You don't need to be exceptional. You merely need to apply.that seems the most complex step for ocukers. While Brits complain that they aren't better than Americans hundreds of thousands of Indians and Bangladeshis' apply and work for Microsoft, Google, oracle, IBM, Apple.
Skilled has a very loose meaning in terms of visas. Unskilled is a toilette cleaner, skilled is pretty much anything that requires more than 2 neurons once in a while.
A bachelor equivalent is defined as 5 years of commercial experience.
A school teacher can apply for example, or a chartered accountant, anyone who does anything IT related (especially anything related to software or hardware engineering), any business analyst, psychologist, designers, GIS technicians.
Did you go to university and get a degre, then apply for a job where the job listed having any degree was a requirement (even although you didn't really need a degree and you degree is in a totally different field) then you have met all requirements.
From the employer's requirement the main thing is they have to treat you like any other American they hire. Wages have to be in line with the local average, your benefits have to be equal and you cannot pay back the visa costs or accept a lower salary in liu of the visa costs. The employer needs to have the job opening and state that it is important for bussiness that the role is filled and you meet all requirements and were the selected candidate. There is no proof that Americans were interviewed or offered the position or indeed any attempt was made to get an American. Merely that it was theoretically possible for an American to apply. This I itself is no different to allowing equal rights for blacks, Asians, women, disabled and elderly to apply for the job. The employer has to do a bit of paperwork and pay a few k in fees. Typically they would use an immigration attorney which reduces paperwork and adds a few more k.
Your biggest stumbling block is to get to the US and apply for jobs, turning up to interviews, making yourself available. Don't expect them to fly you over to the US on a whim. Try to get a set of interviews lined up in a 1 -2 month window., fly over to the US on a tourist visa and go to all the interviews.
I applied for about a dozen jobs in the US, 7-8 I never heard a thing from but I wouldn't expect to hear from all (I applied for half a dozen jobs in the UK and CH and only heard from 2). The other 4 US jobs said they were aware of the visa issue. Of those 4, 1 said that they only occasionally will support a visa but if I proved to be hot enough then they would happily make the exception. The others all said there was no issue and would pay internal US flights for interviews. One required a phone interview first which I completely flunked and felt incredibly embarrassed. One went very quiet, the 3rd offered me the job which I accepted an can lead the 4th interview.
Having a PhD didn't at all change my prospects of getting a visa. It of course helped me get a job, which is partly why I did a PhD in the first place! My company has only 20 employees but there were 3 of us on visas, I was the only one with a PhD, the other 2 had BSc's in computer science.
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Cambridge in the UK was a nice place to live, so was St Albans, as was Bath but I suppose I'm used to moving and as such I think there is a lot out there that I want to experience and see. Not just for me but for the kids too.
These threads pop up more and more often these days!
: Want to move Stateside
'Fox' Never gonna happen
'others' why would you want to?
'others' I'd love to live there, best place in the world
'health insurance debate'
Lived here about 5-6 years now (moved from Essex). Really enjoying it and have to say 'the American dream' is a reality I think.
: Want to move Stateside
'Fox' Never gonna happen
'others' why would you want to?
'others' I'd love to live there, best place in the world
'health insurance debate'
Lived here about 5-6 years now (moved from Essex). Really enjoying it and have to say 'the American dream' is a reality I think.
people still have the 1950's american dream rubbish in their heads.
even though the american dream was never real anyway.
I've been on holiday to florida a few times but wouldn't want to live there
Thousands of Brits do the same and are incredibly successful at the above companies. If you're in the tech industry, moving to California really isn't all that difficult. Most firms will even pay for your flight and hotel for the interview.
Why do brits always dream to live in California or Florida? They are crime filled dumps. Everyone is fleeing California to other states.
There are so many nicer places to live. Austin TX, Provo UT, Coeur D'Alene ID, Santa Fe NM, Chattanooga TN.
There are so many nicer places to live. Austin TX, Provo UT, Coeur D'Alene ID, Santa Fe NM, Chattanooga TN.
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America isnt half as good as everyone makes it look... Some jobs do pay more, but when you take into account things like insurance and the money you will have to pay to get your kid into decent college.... We are talking about 30k tuition a year + about 20 for them to live off... So if you have average of 2 kids, you are looking to dish out half a million dollars on their education alone....
Of-course you get the scholarships etc, but if you have something like 100k household income... forget it.
If you want to send your kids to private college rather than the state ones to give them better shot in life, you are looking at about 60-70k tuition per year.
Its so easy to be fooled by the "American Dream"..... There are so many poor people and horribly deprived areas which are literally no-mans land... You will get shot if you drive through there. Our council estates in UK look like butterflies compared to what is going here.
Of-course you get the scholarships etc, but if you have something like 100k household income... forget it.
If you want to send your kids to private college rather than the state ones to give them better shot in life, you are looking at about 60-70k tuition per year.
Its so easy to be fooled by the "American Dream"..... There are so many poor people and horribly deprived areas which are literally no-mans land... You will get shot if you drive through there. Our council estates in UK look like butterflies compared to what is going here.
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Well I guess you dont venture into west, south-side and anything below trump tower dowtown ;p
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Yeah, the american dream is real. My wife and me are earning several times what we would in the UK, we just purchased a massive 5 bed house dirt cheap, both drive SUVs, I have a boat and im in the running to earn my first million if things work out (fingers crossed for a big meeting with one of the IT giants...). We both enjoy excellent service, amazing food and play in stunning scenery.
Your mistake was going to Florida!
Yep, but according to OCUK it is hopeless and so no point trying. Those who dare win.
And really, far more indians end up in the US than brits and they have no special advantage at all.
Very true. I did almost 3 years there when young and skint.
More lies and myths really. If you are doing a job that will sponsor a visathen you will get free or ccheap insurance. I don't pay a dime for example, and get contacts and solution, glasses, toothpaste, condoms, painkillers paid for. My wife pay around $30 a month. This is much lessthan the NI in UK. Yeah, the us does have larger social issues with uninsured, but that is a separate debate and irrelevant if you go there to work.
Tuition fees are also not as bad as it seems. In state tuition is around $5k a semesterso wwoek s out much cheaper than england.