Poll: PETITION: PLEASE BRING MORE SIZES OF MICHELIN SUPERSPORTS TO UK!!

PLEASE VOTE!

  • YES: I WANT SUPERSPORTS BUT CANT GET IN MY SIZE!

    Votes: 45 73.8%

  • YES: I ALREADY HAVE SUPERSPORTS AND THEY ARE SUPERB!

    Votes: 16 26.2%
  • Total voters
    61
I may be interested if they were available in 225/45/17 but as i run 2 separate sets of wheels i can have semi slicks one one and road wheels on another so i'm not as much in the market for a 'jack of all trades' type tyre but may still give them a go.
 
I'd happily buy them if they were available in my size. 205/45/R16.

Currently use Pilot Sport 3s.
 
They are good when it comes to grip and wear, their wet weather performance is very good indeed but for me on my car they won't be fitted again, too noisy!
 
'No, I am not interested in the Super Sport even though I share a tyre size with Gibbo as I think it's yet another of these over-rated tyres that everyone thinks is some sort of epic all-rounder when in reality it's just very very good in the dry and not shocking in the wet, as it's medicore showing in tyre tests testifies. It only ever seems to win when up against crud tyres'

I'm not bothered about the absolute best possible dry experience, it's safe wet performance that matters to me.
 
I don't think any tyre would prove significantly better in the wet. I've found them to be very good based on grip and traction in the wet and provide a very good front end feel, always for me a good indicator of overall grip. I have never been close to a braking situation where the tyres fitted have had any relevance so can't comment on overall stopping distances and their dry weather performance is good, but again I can only compare them with the run shats I had before, which were horrid. I've managed to push the tyres well past their grip levels in the dry, understeer when I try to carry too much speed (exit T4 North on the Toll Road is a great test) and oversteer when I try to get sideways.

The issue for me is noise, they are very noisy. That isn't a problem in a sports car but it is a bit issue for me in a wafting 5 series. It was the one consideration I never made but half a mile down the road from the tyre fitter I knew I should have considered it.
 
I would also add that their wear rate is really rather good and that was a factor in my decision. Ive still got 4mm on front and 3mm on rear and that is after circa 20K
 
[TW]Fox;25801282 said:
'No, I am not interested in the Super Sport even though I share a tyre size with Gibbo as I think it's yet another of these over-rated tyres that everyone thinks is some sort of epic all-rounder when in reality it's just very very good in the dry and not shocking in the wet, as it's medicore showing in tyre tests testifies. It only ever seems to win when up against crud tyres'

I'm not bothered about the absolute best possible dry experience, it's safe wet performance that matters to me.
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In all fairness you drive a 3/5 series only on the road, the tyre you have for these needs is the F1AS2 I believe which is really the best tyre for your needs and that car. Though I've driven regular 3/5 series Msport hard and they are pretty damn good, so I'd still fit SuperSports. :p

For me a tyre with excellent feedback and confidence is the most important factor and then superb dry/wet ability on both road and track.

I know lots of E46 M3 drivers, who have had Conti M3's and F1AS2's who said they were superb, which they are, then they went to SuperSports and were pretty blown away and this aint just one or two people its a huge amount of E46 M3 and CSL owners saying the same. On the E46 and 911 they seem un-rivalled, no other tyre can match their ability or sport/confidence feel.

Their weakness is as Housey says they do make the ride harsher and are not quiet tyres, but these elements don't interest me, I want maximum feedback and performance, with the bonus of great tyre life. :)
 
Thats what I meant by all round tyre, if you use them on track regularly then it's probably well worth it but for 100% road driving my view is above :p
 
[TW]Fox;25801440 said:
Thats what I meant by all round tyre, if you use them on track regularly then it's probably well worth it but for 100% road driving my view is above :p
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Which I agree with, if I was only using my M3 on the road, I would give the F1AS2 a dabble, just to see how the feedback levels were as I know they are outstanding tyre, especially in the wet. But if I was using it on the road, I'd also be on 19" wheels and then Supersports would be available to suit.

So its catch 22, 18" wheels, no supersports, 19" wheels I can have supersports.

As its a track weekend car, is why I went with cups, at least Michelin have confirmed the cup 2 will be available in the size I need. :)

What would be interesting is which last longer, F1AS2 or Supersports, because that is where they improved most. I know on track the F1AS2 does not last long at all, but track driving is nothing like road driving.
 
I can get them in my size fortunately. :) They will be my next tyre however.

Front 225/45/18
Rear 245/45/18

I push my car a lot so it's good to have tyres that I can trust - though to be fair the Potenzas did brilliantly round the track.
 
Gibbo said:
What would be interesting is which last longer, F1AS2 or Supersports, because that is where they improved most. I know on track the F1AS2 does not last long at all, but track driving is nothing like road driving.
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SS for sure, I've done a pair of AS2 on the back in 6k miles purely road and not even driving hard because they aren't really up to it. AD08 last me 10k and that includes hard driving and track use.
 
Gibbo said:
Rated first here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=174

Highest ranked by end-users here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=MP
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It was tested against bridgestones, Dunlop sportmaxx and yokohamas. What about eagle F1 and sport contact 5s ? And the test is very light on any actual scientific content.

I'm with fox on this one and this is another internet fad and not actually backed up by any fact.

Reminds me of the buzz around the falkens until they got tested and shown to be the mid range tyre their price tag suggests
 
It was a toss up between the MPSS and the AS2's for me and the better wet grip of the AS2's swung it for me (******* UK weather) but depending on how good the wear and grip/feel of the AS2's turns out to be then the MPSS is currently the only other tyre I'd consider as a replacement.

Luckily they make them in my size and only £30 more per corner over the AS2's :D
 
[TW]Fox;25801440 said:
Thats what I meant by all round tyre, if you use them on track regularly then it's probably well worth it but for 100% road driving my view is above :p
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Try doing some genuinely sporty driving m8
 
Fr0dders said:
It was tested against bridgestones, Dunlop sportmaxx and yokohamas. What about eagle F1 and sport contact 5s ? And the test is very light on any actual scientific content.

I'm with fox on this one and this is another internet fad and not actually backed up by any fact.

Reminds me of the buzz around the falkens until they got tested and shown to be the mid range tyre their price tag suggests
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So explain Clarkeys findings then?

Eagle F1's are poor for track driving and from what I can see don't last along. CS5 in reviews seems very similar to CS3.

How come Porsche, Ferrari are using as an o.e. Fit tyre of their performance cars? Does not seem like fad to me, just an excellent tyre which is well proven and loved by those who buy it.

How are they an Internet fad when I myself run a set on the 911 and have done ten track days and over 10,000 miles driven hard in a near 400BHP RWD car, yet the rears are still at 2mm+ and the fronts 5mm. No fad here just hardcore facts.

How do you explain Michelin claiming minimum mileage guarantee in the US and people achieving over 30,000 miles from a set of rears?

Again how is this fad? What tyres have you tried on cars on both road and track?

Compared to F1AS2 in this review:-
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/michelin-pilot-super-sport-page-10

Still fad?
 
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