bbc forcing mixed panels on their shows

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There seems to be a high number of female news readers on the BBC, female newsreaders get paid more than male ones.
Also what about the diet coke ad if you'd replaced it with a hot woman they'll be uproar. what about the maltesers advert with the two women in a strip club and one say to the other we are watching the grand bulk or something like that. imagine if two guys said the same thing.
 
I like that blonde Canadian girl.. she's quite funny and fit. I'd struggle to think of more funny women.

That Miranda character is the least funny 'funny' person on television. Her TV show is appalling.
 
Haggisman said:
Those figures still show a very strong bias towards men, So either the men were naturally better at playing in an orchestra, or the blind auditions didn't really solve anything.
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You don't get it, do you?

There was clear bias against women. All other things being equal, roughly 1 in 4 females were rejected based on their gender alone.

At the time, the orchestra was part of the "man culture", a man club. It started in early education when talented children were pushed towards a career in the orchestara based on their sex simply because that was the status quo. Education is why the figures turned into 65% to 35%, instead of getting to close 50%-50%.

The idea of men being "naturally" better than women at playing an instrument is absurd but it and other similar ideas are deeply rooted in the human psyche, which leads to bias and discrimination throughout society.
 
Zethor said:
The idea of men being "naturally" better than women at playing an instrument is absurd but it and other similar ideas are deeply rooted in the human psyche, which leads to bias and discrimination throughout society.
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Surely with the addition of blind auditions, any men were there based on their merit and a higher proportion of men means men were better at playing instruments than women (in this particular study) ???
 
sbi5ar said:
Surely with the addition of blind auditions, any men were there based on their merit and a higher proportion of men means men were better at playing instruments than women (in this particular study) ???
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That assumes a roughly equal number of male and female applicants.

Without applicant numbers, it is impossible to come to a conclusion using the orchestra scenario.
 
Women and non whites are over represented on the bbc. The audience in question time especially, its like spot the white British male.

If they do have a white British male then they are usually feminine and/or dress up like a women in general.

Apart from a few realy old time presenters that have been on there for decades, there is not realy any male presenters.

They always have women in positions where in real life they would never have the role. For example if there is a bbc cop series, then they will make the head of the department a female and similar. When in reality there is like hardly any female head of police. They always have women doing jobs that they never do its hilarious and men are always wimps and over sensitive.
 
sbi5ar said:
Surely with the addition of blind auditions, any men were there based on their merit and a higher proportion of men means men were better at playing instruments than women (in this particular study) ???
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It means more men have been taught to play the instruments not that men are naturally better than women.
 
Judgeneo said:
That assumes a roughly equal number of male and female applicants.

Without applicant numbers, it is impossible to come to a conclusion using the orchestra scenario.
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Which is what I was half trying to get at previously... need to know the number of applicants, so it was a poor example :p - Not had chance to look at the footballer one
 
Zethor said:
You don't get it, do you?

There was clear bias against women. All other things being equal, roughly 1 in 4 females were rejected based on their gender alone.
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I do get it. Do you?

Yes the study shows that a small proportion of women were being rejected based on gender.

However it also shows that only ~30% of a ~25% increase was due to the blind testing. In other words, around 7.5%.

If men and women really were completely equally suitable, then surely the increase would be far more pronounced? :confused:
 
There is a problem, but this is entirely the wrong way to fix it.

I'd much rather they introduced something like Live at the Apollo for lesser known comedians (of both genders). There are far less 'big name' female comedians and I don't think introducing a quote in panel shows is the right way to change that. They need to go to the root of the problem.
 
I'm all for anything that would slightly reduce the chances of Phil Jupitus appearing on any panel show, even if it means increased chances of either Shappy Corsandy or Sara Milligan.
 
Bubo said:
I'm all for anything that would slightly reduce the chances of Phil Jupitus appearing on any panel show, even if it means increased chances of either Shappy Corsandy or Sara Milligan.
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Surely he'd have to be there to fill the "token fat man" quota?
 
i'm all for getting new female talent on tv. but if they're not funny, at least make them nice to look at. :p the problem with most of the current crop is they're funny as cancer and minging to boot.
 
Women comedians just aren't funny. They all have the same material.

Oh well :/

Guess it takes up slots from good comedians.
 
It would not be so bad, but they only ever seem to put the dreadfully unfunny women on these shows.

There are some funny women out there, its just a shame the ones the BBC choose to have on these shows are the likes of Jo Brand and Shappi Khorsandi who are painfully unfunny.
 
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