Persecution of Gays

Craterloads · 12 Feb 2014 at 14:28

Why are some stating "born gay" as if it was not scientifically unproven and highly contentious?

Guess it allows them play the bigot card....

Caged · 12 Feb 2014 at 14:28

If someone has children then it should be because they want to raise a child and nurture it, not because they feel obliged to continue the bloodline or something equally medieval.

The fact that a gay couple can't find themselves with a child by accident should make them statistically better parents because of it, because they actively made the choice.

krooton · 12 Feb 2014 at 14:28

I don't plan to have children, but if for some reason it did happen, I would have no issue at all with them being gay.

I am straight.

oulton · 12 Feb 2014 at 14:29

krooton said:
I don't plan to have children, but if for some reason it did happen, I would have no issue at all with them being gay.

I am straight.

sorry mate, not wanting kids puts you in with the homo's

Elixir · 12 Feb 2014 at 14:31

Trig said:
Natural to the point where they as far as sexual reproduction goes, then no, but when you start bringing personal choice and stuff like that in then its about as natural as us wearing clothes...

Well done on entirely missing my point. Whether it is natural or not has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it is massively wrong for some countries to have the death penalty for homosexuality.

deuse · 12 Feb 2014 at 14:32

oulton said:
sorry mate, not wanting kids puts you in with the homo's

oulton · 12 Feb 2014 at 14:32

Caged said:
If someone has children then it should be because they want to raise a child and nurture it, not because they feel obliged to continue the bloodline or something equally medieval.

The fact that a gay couple can't find themselves with a child by accident should make them statistically better parents because of it, because they actively made the choice.

How is it medieval to want to carry on the family line? I disagree strongly. I'm of the opinon that when we die part of us lives on through our kids. I want to see oultons on the moon!

phonemonkey · 12 Feb 2014 at 14:32

oulton said:
LOL you guys, since I bowed out yesterday having started a fire you've been going round in circles trying to put out the flames

I expect an honest answer to this hypothetical question.

If you had a child, and the child turned out to be gay, would you 100% be ok with that?

I'm not asking if you would:

a) accept it
b) still love the child (duh)
c) come to terms with it.

I'm asking if you would 100% not mind at all and have no preference to if the son/daughter found a decent partner of the opposite sex.

I'd have to say that prior to this thread I'd have answered that it made not a jot of difference, that it was more important to me that my child spent their life happy and in love with so,done who loved them back.

However, after reading this thread and realising how much bigotry and misunderstanding they'd still have to endure I have to say I think their life would be easier if they happened to be straight and therefore that would probably be my preference. What parent wouldn't want their child having the happiest and easiest time growing up, it's hard enough as it is. That said, I'd never say that to my child and I'd allow them to develop in their own way, supporting them 100% whatever their sexuality, choice of career etc happened to be.

Burnsy2023 · 12 Feb 2014 at 14:32

oulton said:
we are all different I guess. I would be a bit put out by it I think. Of course nothing would change in terms of the big picture but I want my son to have a wife and kids. I dunno maybe I'm just old fashoned

Or perhaps just bigoted and homophobic?

Caged · 12 Feb 2014 at 14:34

oulton said:
How is it medieval to want to carry on the family line? I disagree strongly. I'm of the opinon that when we die part of us lives on through our kids. I wan't to see oultons on the moon!

I just find it a bit strange if ensuring your name lives on is more important than wanting children because you want to raise a little human and see them grow up.

oulton · 12 Feb 2014 at 14:35

Burnsy2023 said:
Or perhaps just bigoted and homophobic?

no, cheap shot burnsy must try harder.

My neighbour is gay. Nice fellow no problems whatsoever. Not bigoted, see

oulton · 12 Feb 2014 at 14:36

Caged said:
I just find it a bit strange if ensuring your name lives on is more important than wanting children because you want to raise a little human and see them grow up.

how many false assumptions did you stuff into that last sentence?

Caged · 12 Feb 2014 at 14:37

Probably not enough to keep you happy.

Frightful Boar · 12 Feb 2014 at 14:38

oulton said:
no, cheap shot burnsy must try harder.

My neighbour is gay. Nice fellow no problems whatsoever. Not bigoted, see

I'm pretty sure you have to believe in all of even the most hysterical and ridiculous gay beliefs, eg born gay, they're born gay!, in order to not be a homophobe.

Burnsy2023 · 12 Feb 2014 at 14:42

oulton said:
no, cheap shot burnsy must try harder.

My neighbour is gay. Nice fellow no problems whatsoever. Not bigoted, see

That's the equivalent of "I can't be racist, I have a black friend", which always has been a load of crap.

oulton · 12 Feb 2014 at 14:50

Burnsy2023 said:
That's the equivalent of "I can't be racist, I have a black friend", which always has been a load of crap.

I disagree completely. This is an internet forum. You have to take what people say on its face value.

zenf · 12 Feb 2014 at 14:52

krooton said:
Bigots gonna bigot.

/thread tbh, there's clearly no point reasoning with these people, they need someone they can class as different and direct their willfully ill-educated prejudice and hatred towards. Quite pitiful really.

oulton · 12 Feb 2014 at 14:59

zenf said:
/thread tbh, there's clearly no point reasoning with these people, they need someone they can class as different and direct their willfully ill-educated prejudice and hatred towards. Quite pitiful really.

whats pitiful is that people cannot have/voice an opinion about homosexuality in society that is not 100% positive without being branded homophobic by the sheeple who dare not think for themselves.

spudbynight · 12 Feb 2014 at 15:01

oulton said:
LOL you guys, since I bowed out yesterday having started a fire you've been going round in circles trying to put out the flames

I expect an honest answer to this hypothetical question.

If you had a child, and the child turned out to be gay, would you 100% be ok with that?

I'm not asking if you would:

a) accept it
b) still love the child (duh)
c) come to terms with it.

I'm asking if you would 100% not mind at all and have no preference to if the son/daughter found a decent partner of the opposite sex.

Hmm....if they could test unborn babies for homosexuality* would people be OK with homosexual babies being aborted on that basis? The ultimate nightmare for "progressives"

*assuming that homosexuality was discovered to be genetic.

AJK · 12 Feb 2014 at 15:04

oulton said:
whats pitiful is that people cannot have/voice an opinion about homosexuality in society that is not 100% positive without being branded homophobic by the sheeple who dare not think for themselves.

What's pitiful is that bigots and homophobes can't think of a reason why they're afraid of gay people, so they just accuse right-thinking people of being "sheeple" instead.