Employer threatening to ban e-cigs...

Gackt said:
It's the habit, the action itself - okay, so it's the inhalation and consumption of a substance which provides the brain with a drug - and while the deleterious effects of burning the tobacco is removed, the consumption remains.
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So do you have an issue with people using the drug that is caffeine? people who enjoy a cup of coffee or tea are just dependant addicts who need help right?
 
My old company (Hewlett Packard) banned them from inside all UK offices.

Our union had a vote on it and decided not to contest it (majority of members were in favour of it). At the end of the day it's a drug addiction and most people thought work was no place for that kind of thing.
 
Why is it in this day and age no one gets a break anymore from employers? :rolleyes:

It is like everytime something comes up that they can ban, they do!! :mad:
Like they love the power to say "NO!"

I am so lucky not to have to work for some retard for the past 7 years. ;)

Get off your butt and work for yourself I say, win win except you dont get a day off! :(
 
bloodiedathame said:
Certainly. They smell funny, people using them in a quiet environment make stupid noises *pup, whoooosh*, if you're vaping at work then I'd also like some sort of 5 min get out clause where I only have to work with one hand. Irrational?
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Do you ever drink tea or coffee whilst at your desk? Can you do this without using your one hand at least?
 
bloodiedathame said:
To be honest I don't really give two *****, I was trying to make excuses for the fact that I just think vaping is a cry for attention and looks down right retarded. ;)
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Whereas the hospital bed suffering from terminal lung cancer look is the epitome of cool.

Personally, I think drain pipe trousers, designer stubbles and tattoo 'sleeves' look silly too but I would fight for the right for anyone to do them.
 
I dont think they can put you with smokers as they will be damaging your heath to breath second hand smoke. but they can put you with other vapours.
 
estebanrey said:
Do you ever drink tea or coffee whilst at your desk? Can you do this without using your one hand at least?
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Does drinking a cup of tea really compare in your eyes to the lack of professionalism an e-cig does? As I said in an earlier post

It is disruptive to an office enviroment and incredibly unprofessional looking, I'm amazed you do not have the self awareness to realise this even within your thriving community of e-cig enthusiasts.
 
Resident said:
If it were really an aid to stop smoking then why are you a " long term electronic cigarette user", really all you done is swap one habit for another.

Plenty of businesses have banned the use of e-cigs other than within their regular smoking guidelines and your employer is simply attempting to follow suit to which you've spat the dummy out.

Why not just stick the dummy back in and suck on that rather than an e-cig?
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So let's ban tea, coca-cola and coffee drinking too. After all we can't have people addicted to caffeine on our books can we?

You do know that caffeine is the world's most addicted to drug, with 90% of the world's population clinically dependant on it right?
 
Haha I love the amount of butthurt people there are posting in this thread.

I mean seriously estebanrey, is it really the end of the world for you to get up and do your habit out of way of your fellow employees, is it really too much to ask? Hell, as Pestilence said, stretching your legs and getting away from the screen is a blessing. **** it, I might start vaping for the sheer privilege.
 
Resident said:
If it were really an aid to stop smoking then why are you a " long term electronic cigarette user", really all you done is swap one habit for another.
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You're missing the point there, too. As a stop smoking aid, it's a success for him. He's stopped smoking.

Yet while he has indeed swapped one habit for another, why is that a bad thing or something to be belittled when said habit is for a perfectly legal recreational drug now used in a manner that causes no harm?

Vast swathes of people across the world are silently addicted to caffeine; pumping coffee after coffee -- or soft drink after soft drink -- into themselves throughout every day. Why aren't we tutting at people standing on the pavement cradling a Starbucks, socially judging them as though they're weaklings? Is it just because coffee has never been subject to such negative outcry as smoking? I'd wager it is -- and fair enough, coffee consumption has never been linked to sickness like smoking. The fact remains, however, that caffeine and nicotine are very similar stimulants which, on their own, have very similar capacities for harm (read: in seriously excessive amounts).

"But I like the taste of coffee... that's why I drink it!" they may cry. Yet that's not an acceptable reason for someone vaping? What about someone vaping juice that doesn't actually contain nicotine -- just for the flavour?

Simply because it looks like smoking, these reactions are pre-purchased and ready to go but they don't stand up to any scrutiny.
 
mhvcbv said:
I dont think they can put you with smokers as they will be damaging your heath to breath second hand smoke. but they can put you with other vapours.
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Whilst I agree to a certain extent, there is no rationale to push vapers outside. Smoking has well known and proven reasons as to why they should go outside and not force non-smokers to inhale their carcinogenic smoke, something not true of vapour.

Banning vaping and treating it like smoking because "it looks similar" would be akin to banning our drivers from scratching the sides of their head because it looks similar to them using a mobile phone.
 
estebanrey said:
Whilst I agree to a certain extent, there is no rationale to push vapers outside. Smoking has well known and proven reasons as to why they should go outside and not force non-smokers to inhale their carcinogenic smoke, something not true of vapour.

Banning vaping and treating it like smoking because "it looks similar" would be akin to banning our drivers from scratching the sides of their head because it looks similar to them using a mobile phone.
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Would you agree that vaping in an office environment could be distracting?
 
estebanrey said:
So let's ban tea, coca-cola and coffee drinking too. After all we can't have people addicted to caffeine on our books can we?

You do know that caffeine is the world's most addicted to drug, with 90% of the world's population clinically dependant on it right?
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But they are not polluting the air in an enclosed environment.

Are e cigs even regulated these days? I know they were not in the past, if they are still unregulated anything could be lurking within them. depending where they are made. and i know for a fact I would not want to be breathing them in.
 
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