Cat Connundrum

This is what I hate the most about cats, why should I have to put up with other people's pets crapping in my garden?

I'm the same. Thats why the past three days when my cat scarer needs its battery charged I've been flinging the **** back over the fence to my neighbours garden. Will be fun during the summer when she has her washing out though :D
 
I may well do but it doesn't stop cats from being unpleasant. If some dogs lashed out and had the same temperament as some cats they would be destroyed or declared a dangerous breed.

And some dogs aren't dangerous? Or destroyed? Or kill babies/children/people each year? Seriously, how many times have you heard of anyone being killed by the family cat? :confused:

I like the way you extend the argument from "some cats" to all cats. Nice reasoning.

Funny how cat evoke such a love/hate response. I love them, my father hates them with a passion, and they make my mum physically ill.

I don't care for dogs at all, but thats apparently socially unacceptable in this country. Mention it and people look at you aghast. Its definitely a cultural attitude, other countries/cultures have have different default attitudes to dogs and cats, they may not love them, they're indifferent at best, but outspoken prejudice seems peculiar to certain cultures.

/sigh. What I'd do to have a Ragdoll, Cornish Rex, or a Savannah :p

Get your own place, I imagine. No Pets rule is pretty much the norm for rented accomodation, I think it's more for legal technical reasons than anything else, usually tenancy agreements won't even let you knock a nail in the wall but everyone does it anyway. I guess it depends how keen your landlord is to enforce said rules.
 
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Why is it socially acceptable to allow your cat to free roam, you don't see anyone letting their dogs out to go where they like? All cats should be kept in doors like all other pets.
 
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Why is it socially acceptable to allow your cat to free roam, you don't see anyone letting their dogs out to go where they like? All cats should be kept in doors like all other pets.

That's actually cruel.

Cats are made to free roam. They're built for it, mentally and physically.

You wouldn't keep a sheepdog indoors.

Maybe you should be kept indoors?
 
That's actually cruel.

Cats are made to free roam. They're built for it, mentally and physically.

You wouldn't keep a sheepdog indoors.

Maybe you should be kept indoors?

I assume that you think that it is cruel that people keep dogs inside all day, as well as lizards and fish in small tanks.
 
No, it isn't cruel.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q="keeping+cats+indoors"

A number of animal welfare organisations condone it.

PETA is supposed to be an animal welfare company and look at all the sketchy stuff they get up to.

Whether you keep a cat inside is down to the individual cat. I "adopted" a female maine cooon about 6 months ago, and we kept her inside for the first month or so just so that she got used to her new environment, however she was constantly scratching at the door and very eager to go out.

When we eventually did let her out, she mainly just sits on the step and watches the world go by, and when it gets dark she goes for a stroll. I would feel cruel not letting her go out at all, as it's extremely clear that she wants to go outside to watch the street and have a play about.

She actually doesn't crap or wee outside either as she is consistently using her litter box.
 
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I assume that you think that it is cruel that people keep dogs inside all day, as well as lizards and fish in small tanks.

Whilst I don't think it's necessarily cruel to keep things like lizards and fish in tanks, I do think they'd live a more fulfilling life not cooped up in a small tank.
 
No, it isn't cruel.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q="keeping+cats+indoors"

A number of animal welfare organisations condone it.

Did you read any of that BS though?

Peta (American) compare it to letting your child run out of an open door :rolleyes:
7th Heaven write such utter BS no normal cat owner could keep a straight face "an outdoor cat will only live 2-5 years..." :rolleyes:

In general American sites promote it (more urban perhaps) and UK sites are horrified at the very thought. Especially this idea that a bored cat is better than one run over by a car, that is just weird.

UK RSPCA do not condone it
UK Cat Protection do not recommend it


Cats are predatory and actively hunt, dogs don't, this is why dogs don't suffer from the same levels of depression that cats do if confined into one space. You can't keep an intelligent animal entertained with a few plastic balls and a bag filled with catnip.

I know of a number of households that keep cats, some keep them in all the time, some let them out.
There is a marked distinction between the two, the indoor cats are noticeably more timid and neurotic than the outdoor cats.
 
In general American sites promote it (more urban perhaps) and UK sites are horrified at the very thought.

UK RSPCA do not condone it
UK Cat Protection do not recommend it

You what mate? The very first result was the RSPCA.

http://www.rspca.org.uk/allaboutanimals/pets/cats/environment/indoors

RSPCA said:
There is no definitive knowledge regarding whether being an indoor-only cat is better/worse than one who goes outdoors. You must meet all your cat's needs whether they’re an indoor cat or not. However, indoor-only cats have additional needs to meet to ensure they’re healthy and happy.

Cats can adapt well to indoor life if they’re kept inside from an early age.

Did *you* read any of it?
 
I can understand that people get annoyed by other peoples cats messing in their garden, but I don't agree with keeping them cooped up indoors all day.

I always say put up up some kind of netting around the boundary fence or build an outside run so they can spend time outside but can't escape from the property, mostly for their own safety.
 
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Agree or disagree, there are no hard facts that prove indoor life is bad for kitties.

Given that we're trading anecdotal evidence here, I'll share mine. As part of my job I used to have to visit people in their homes. I met plenty of indoor cats. None of them seemed stressed/unhappy/psychotic. Mostly they were curious and friendly. And, as with all cats, prone to being asleep.
 
You what mate? The very first result was the RSPCA.
Did *you* read any of it?
Read post, I mentioned RSPCA.
as per your quote, RSPCA don't condone keeping cats indoors

I used to have to visit people in their homes. I met plenty of indoor cats.
You've met cats with their owners, of course they were happy.
I've seen them when they were home alone. Indoor cats are not happy on their own, outdoor cats are too busy doing cat stuff to care.


Yes there are hard facts here,
outdoor cats have riskier lives, indoor cats get depressed and overeat.
In my book if someone values a cats longevity (and implicitly their own feelings of ownership) over a cats happiness then they shouldn't have a cat. They should get a dog instead, dogs don't give a crap.
 
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