Two cyclists just gave me some verbal

Riding two abreast seems generally obnoxious. Yes I get you want to have a nice little chat but if you're holding up traffic then perhaps some consideration for other road users would be sensible, especially as they are all in potentially lethal chunks of metal.


But youre not showing them consideration
Hold you up. You mean it takes you an extra 30 secs to get somewhere.
 
Its actually safer for the cyclist to ride 2 abreast as the following cars have to overtake more cautiously, And not just barrel past like most do.

It would be far safer to ban cyclists from the roads altogether if that is the criteria ;)

The problem seems to be that cyclists often consider themselves both better than other road users and unconstrained by any form of law or manners...
 
I don't see anything wrong with using your horn to alert them of your presence, after all that's exactly what its for and i do the same fairly regularly up here as in Snowdonia there are road cyclists everywhere.

It does do my head in when they are 2, 3 or 4 abreast in the road and just sit there happily holding up traffic sometimes for miles at a time. I do cycle on the road sometimes but it's only a means to get somewhere more interesting on my MTB but as soon as i hear a car i'll pull right over or if the road is narrow stop on the side of the road to let the car past. It takes me about 5 seconds and i feel a lot safer than forcing cars to do silly overtakes to try and prove something.
 
So it is ok to ride like a **** in your mind, as long as it is only motorists being inconvenienced?

No I don't at all. But I take it you think its ok for the motorist to sit on the cyclist back wheel honking his horn.

If the cyclist had fallen off do you think sitting 10 feet of his back wheel would have been enough time to stop.
 
Its actually safer for the cyclist to ride 2 abreast as the following cars have to overtake more cautiously, And not just barrel past like most do.

I have no problem with that line of thinking, but don't getting ****y when a car wants to overtake without fully driving in the wrong lane.
 
No I don't at all. But I take it you think its ok for the motorist to sit on the cyclist back wheel honking his horn.

If the cyclist had fallen off do you think sitting 10 feet of his back wheel would have been enough time to stop.

So you think it is ok to just make up a position to argue thst had no bearing on the op? That is called a strawman fallacy.

Alerting someone to your presence who has shown no exyernal signs they know you are there is exactly what the horn is for. The rest is your fantasy and completely irrelevant.
 
So you think it is ok to just make up a position to argue thst had no bearing on the op? That is called a strawman fallacy.

Alerting someone to your presence who has shown no exyernal signs they know you are there is exactly what the horn is for. The rest is your fantasy and completely irrelevant.

Driving home from the hospital 40mins ago, two cyclists side by side blocking the entire lane of a steep uphill road. I was quite a ways behind them and beeped my horn to alert them and got no response so I got closer and beeped again and this time they heard and dropped into single file, and as I passed they started hurling abuse and making comments like "is the road not wide enough for you", and "sorry for taking up my time", I was chill about it but my passenger wasn't, she opened the window and told them to get to the side of the f'in road then called them ****.

As the OP didn't give distances I used an example based on what I have seen and heard with my own experiences
 
Alerting someone to your presence who has shown no exyernal signs they know you are there is exactly what the horn is for.

Whilst that may be what horns were invented for it's not what they are most commonly used for. Beeping at cyclists from a distance just comes across as aggressive. You wouldn't do it if it were a slow moving tractor so why do it at cyclists.
 
Distances... about 15 car lengths(of my Rover 25) behind them when I beeped the second time in which they heard me. Far enough away that I can stop if something did happen to one of the cyclists.
 
95% of cyclists in my experience are decent people. 5% are utter twits. Same goes for any road user really, cyclists are no different. What sets them apart is the speed differential on some roads making the likelihood and consequence of any accident greater when they are being idiots.
 
It would be far safer to ban cyclists from the roads altogether if that is the criteria ;)

The problem seems to be that cyclists often consider themselves both better than other road users and unconstrained by any form of law or manners...

They were obeying the law though. Which your quote of rule 66 supported. They were not riding more than 2 abreast.
 
Distances... about 15 car lengths(of my Rover 25) behind them when I beeped the second time in which they heard me. Far enough away that I can stop if something did happen to one of the cyclists.

No wonder they didn't hear you the first time if you were over 190 feet away the 2nd time

So how far where you really
 
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What we need is a picture of the road in question to decide whether the OP could've overtaken safely anyway or if the cyclists were the ones being inconsiderate.
 
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