Two cyclists just gave me some verbal

In cornwall I feel that motorcycles are a bigger pain than bicycles especially in the summer. They all flock in their hundreds to their favorite roads and think they are IoM TT racers, completely ignoring double white lines, whenever one crashes into a car, it's automatically the car drivers fault, people have been confronted by 10+ bikers because a biker who had crossed double whites nearly hit the oncoming car, you hear all sorts of stories especially through people in Aquila. Honestly bicycle riders here have the same mentality, they think they are king of the road and that no law applies to them, hence when you get 4 of them abreast up a steep hill and have to follow them at 2mph for 10 miles :rolleyes:
 
Theophany said:
Surely the situation dictates how cyclists ride? If it's dangerous to ride on the edge of the road, I'd expect a cyclist to ride closer to the centre of the lane - I don't want them falling off and putting me in a position where I could potentially injure or kill them. As any road user, I'm supposed to wait for a safe opportunity to overtake - not just the moment at which I catch up to them.

Don't really see what the issue is, tbh.
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Theo, get outa here with your common sense and decency. That suspension has done you far too much good.
 
arknor said:
a lot of cyclists will be members of british cycling purely for the discounts at wiggle and halfords ,the lowest membership starts at £32 a year and has Up to £10m third party liability insurance
http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/membership/article/memst-Third-Party-Liability-Insurance-0


They are entitled to ride in the centre of the road if they choose to.
nothing says they are forced into the gutter where they are likely to get punctures from all the crap that gathers along them

I bet the cyclists would have fallen into single file when they heard his car coming if he wasn't beeping like a mad man
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So is that insurance pretty much the same as car insurance then?
If they causae damage to anythign it will pay out yeah?

If so, and the insurance is available, ID plate cyclists and make insurance a requirement for riding on the roads imho, will hopefully assist with decreasing the amount of uninsured riders :)

To those of you that do have this type of insurance (Im guessing its those of you with expensive bikes) have you had to use it? and how do you find it vs car insurance?
 
Uncle_Gravy said:
Don't understand why we just can't give them their own lane on the pavement, it'll be more safer i think.
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Even more dangerous than riding on the roads on most cycle lanes in my opinion, as they are usually on pavements that back on to driveways and people often just drive out to the road side from said driveways without looking left or right.

~Divine~Wind~ said:
So is that insurance pretty much the same as car insurance then?
If they causae damage to anythign it will pay out yeah?

If so, and the insurance is available, ID plate cyclists and make insurance a requirement for riding on the roads imho, will hopefully assist with decreasing the amount of uninsured riders :)

To those of you that do have this type of insurance (Im guessing its those of you with expensive bikes) have you had to use it? and how do you find it vs car insurance?
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Just basic Third Party insurance, so if you have an accident that is your fault or 50/50 it would pay out to the other party, whether that is a pedestrian, car driver, other cyclists etc etc. I've never had to use or have heard anyone use it though.
 
mattyg said:
But youre not showing them consideration
Hold you up. You mean it takes you an extra 30 secs to get somewhere.
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I've been on many roads where unless you're lucky with one or two spots and theres no on coming traffic or have a powerful car you can't overtake for 5+ miles stretch of road. This adds a lot more time than "30 seconds". Especially when you're doing 20mph instead of 45-50.
 
slowly reading through this so not sure if point has been made already but.... how is riding side by side that much safer? surely the whole idea was to put as much distance between the bike and your car when over taking. when I over take a cyclist I always try my best to treat it exactly like a car so I full move over into the oncoming lane to give as much room, but if they are side by side and I do that anyway.... there's one cyclist who's going to be right next to my car. also is either of them have to swerve to avoid a pot hole or has a wobble then they are a lot more likely to wobble right into my car rather then the empty space that would have been left.... so again.... how is it safer for them to be side by side if I'm trying to overtake?
 
Gammawolf said:
I've been on many roads where unless you're lucky with one or two spots and theres no on coming traffic or have a powerful car you can't overtake for 5+ miles stretch of road. This adds a lot more time than "30 seconds". Especially when you're doing 20mph instead of 45-50.
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If that were the case and the cyclists knew the road was like that, I'd expect them to let you pass. Not all will, granted.
 
[TW]Fox;25854573 said:
Cool another cycling rant thread, just what we needed.
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It's getting tiresome.

I'm sure everyone on these forums experiences other road users acting stupidly on a daily basis, yet they only seem to post about it when there's a cyclist involved. As a result, there's a skewed general opinion on here that all cyclists are idiots.

As for the OP: Technically, yes, you should give cyclists as much room as a car when overtaking. However, speaking as a cyclist, I don't expect a motorist to give me that much room when passing, nor do I mind when they don't. I only ask that they pass me in as swift a manner as possible, and I do the same when I pass cyclists while driving.

I would much rather someone gave me a bit less room and passed quickly than sat right behind me for mile after mile waiting until they give me a wide enough berth. I find that a bit disconcerting. As long as they don't scrape my handlebars at 30MPH, I'm happy.
 
Conscript said:
It's getting tiresome.

I'm sure everyone on these forums experiences other road users acting stupidly on a daily basis, yet they only seem to post about it when there's a cyclist involved. As a result, there's a skewed general opinion on here that all cyclists are idiots.

As for the OP: Technically, yes, you should give cyclists as much room as a car when overtaking. However, speaking as a cyclist, I don't expect a motorist to give me that much room when passing, nor do I mind when they don't. I only ask that they pass me in as swift a manner as possible, and I do the same when I pass cyclists while driving.

I would much rather someone gave me a bit less room and passed quickly than sat right behind me for mile after mile waiting until they give me a wide enough berth. I find that a bit disconcerting. As long as they don't scrape my handlebars at 30MPH, I'm happy.
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The problem with doing that when I'm driving my 44 tonner is that the vacuum will almost certainly suck you under !

If not my vehicle (you end up under) then the vehicle behind !

I ride a cycle to work. If I feel a vehicle can't get past me then I stop.
I'm not in a hurry, I wouldn't be on a cycle if I was !

Having said that, if a motorist can't safely pass a cycle easily then how the heck did they get their full licence in the first place ?
 
Outcast said:
Having said that, if a motorist can't safely pass a cycle easily then how the heck did they get their full licence in the first place ?
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Precisely.

Oh, and yes, if the vehicle was something large like a lorry that is clearly having trouble passing me on a smaller road, yes I'll stop to let them past.
 
Normally can't be bothered with these threads because they're just cyclist-bashing-motorist-bashing circle jerks, but this post..
Dolph said:
The sheer ability of cyclists to try and justify being ****s on the road never ceases to amaze me, the mental gymnastics, double standards and so on involved suggests some sort of mental impairment must be involved.
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was fantastic. Ironic post of the year :).
 
platypus said:
Normally can't be bothered with these threads because they're just cyclist-bashing-motorist-bashing circle jerks, but this post..was fantastic. Ironic post of the year :).
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Aw man, missed that post first time around!
Well spotted.
 
Nobody will care but on Wednesday morning I was left hooked by a driver and left flat on my back while the woman stood over me screaming at me.
Two blokes ran over and started to have a go at her because they had witnessed exactly what she'd done but she wouldn't admit to no wrong.
The verbals continued for a couple of minutes with me saying nothing and because we were close to a Police station a Copper in a car saw the commotion and came down.
He asked what was going on and I just said 'Talk to the two witnesses' and then after he asked if I could confirm the incident which I did.
The woman continued to say she'd done nothing wrong and the Copper asked me what I wanted to do and I said since me or my bike wasn't hurt I'd forget it if she apologised.
She started shouting again and the Copper said while pointing at a couple of CCTV cameras 'What will they show?' and she went quiet, thought about it and then apologised. (The Cop may have been bluffing about CCTV).
Anyway I thanked the 2 men, went on my merry way and left the Cop talking to the woman.
What was really lucky was that I was also turning left down the same street so the impact was lessened, if I'd been going forward I probably would have ended up in A&E.

Where I was left hooked - https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.0...m4!1e1!3m2!1sH80cM3jyXmWgeITDKhfbqw!2e0?hl=en
 
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