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John Carmack Says to Take Nvidia's K1 Claims with Several Grains of Salt
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They can make the fastest mobile GPU ever.... unless they give it the memory bandwidth to match it'll never compete with anything.
Imagine giving a R290 100Gb/s memory bandwidth, wouldn't really perform the same would it.
Stacked memory should fix the issue but even that's going to take a few years.
Imagine giving a R290 100Gb/s memory bandwidth, wouldn't really perform the same would it.
Stacked memory should fix the issue but even that's going to take a few years.
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Imagine if amd promoted an entry level 1080p apu that had an 7750 for the gpu, but only used shared DDR3 memory, (30-40gb/s bandwidth) oh wait they did.
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So when Carmack is negative towards Mantle he's not relevant anymore and nor is anything he says.
When Carmack is negative about this Nvidia K1 thing then it's proof that it's true?
It's good that the AMD people know when he in a lucid state and when he isn't cuz I can't keep up!
When Carmack is negative about this Nvidia K1 thing then it's proof that it's true?
It's good that the AMD people know when he in a lucid state and when he isn't cuz I can't keep up!
So when Carmack is negative towards Mantle he's not relevant anymore and nor is anything he says.
When Carmack is negative about this Nvidia K1 thing then it's proof that it's true?
It's good that the AMD people know when he in a lucid state and when he isn't cuz I can't keep up!
You should be directing this to the author of the article.
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You should be directing this to the author of the article.
Did that author also says Carmack was irrelevant when he made his Mantle comments?
I checked the article, theres no mention of it. Not sure what it has to do with this thread.
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You said I should direct to the author of the article, I was checking if it was relevant to the author of the article.
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Does this guy not realise we're talking last gen consoles here? I think it's entirely feasible that a mobile GPU today could have the graphics processing power equiv of a PS3/360 - they're both nearly 9 year old technology now!!
Even investors are talking about Nvidias often 'out there' claims but I've never seen it myself. The PC graphcis cards are just made and put out - do they make crazy claims? Maybe I have missed some.
Personally I think Nvidia won't be far wrong with their claims- time will tell
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Nvidia aren't alone, ALL mobile chipset makers claim console power. There's always some stat they can technically point to and weasel out when people call BS, but on closer inspection it always turns out to be rubbish. Form factor is very limiting for these devices, yet the general public expect miracles...
Very true. They give us things that work, so us idiots don't have to keep messing with settings in AB/TriXX and whatever else that AMD need to do to get their cards working. Hats off to the AMD guys for having to use their brains to use AMD equipment
Never used a Nvidia card, well perhaps when I first had a pc I think I had one but tht doesn't count. But since then always had a ATi/AMD GPU and I've never had to mess with any programs or settings to get my card/s working not once so can't say I've ever had this problem you speak of. But I guess if that's how you feel it perhaps makes you feel better about the premiums you pay for Nvidia cards? Such as the titans?
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Jesus, the amount of trolling in this thread... Give it a break guys.
Interesting, what do you think of the Surface (2 especially) overall? I am looking into getting the Surface 3 this year as it would be incredibly helpful for me to get a lightweight device which can run Visual Studio 2013 without having to haul my laptop around which is pretty heavy and doesn't have a great battery life.
I've heard good things about the Windows 8.1 RT on the Surface, the metro style layout seems like it sure would work better on a tablet than a laptop or desktop.
Interesting, what do you think of the Surface (2 especially) overall? I am looking into getting the Surface 3 this year as it would be incredibly helpful for me to get a lightweight device which can run Visual Studio 2013 without having to haul my laptop around which is pretty heavy and doesn't have a great battery life.
I've heard good things about the Windows 8.1 RT on the Surface, the metro style layout seems like it sure would work better on a tablet than a laptop or desktop.
I don’t get way NVidia are wasting money on Tegra as they are constantly years behind the competition. By the time K1 hits it will only be playing catch up to last generation no matter how many lies and hype they try and use to make it sound good. Tegra just does not matter in the mobile market.
ive used the surface2 its not bad but i think they are pretty expensive? and pretty bulky compared to the ipads etc, mostly because of the system specs needed? i guess see what specs the new one comes in at
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Does Visual Studuio 2013 run on Windows RT (ARM)? I don't know.
It's quite hard to say how I feel overall.
With the Surface one, I absolutely loved the build quality, the speakers while quiet were of decent quality.
The Surface 2 seems a slight, slight downgrade in build quality for me (The kick stand feels flimsier) and the speakers crackle (I've had 2, so it's just the speakers being crap) at higher sound levels and they're a downgrade overall (You can negate the crackling by turning off tegra enhancements, they become decent quality, but useless if you're trying to watch netflix etc, as they're too quiet)
I love the Surface 2 in concept, it's a premium device (I wish it was running the Snapdragon 800 like the Nokia 2520 but meh)
Windows Store leaves a lot to be desired too, Microsoft has an OS that has strengths than Android doesn't have, but then it has weaknesses (Limitations, so things like PSX emulators can't exist currently with decent speed, yet you had 1GHZ Snapdragon single cores doing emulation ages ago, like the Xperia play etc)
At the time of my Surface 2, I also had a touchscreen netbook, frankly I find the netbook easier to use, but that's when I had the touch cover which I didn't really get on very well with (Vivobook replaced by an Acer S7 Ultrabook)
Using Windows RT is actually really easy (Some help with 8.1, 50/50 split screen etc) with the Surface 2 like, being touch screen and all.
If you can live with the RT limitations, then I'd certainly get one, but it's not a product where you like everything about it, it's a product where you like certain things, and wish others were different.
I truly believe Surface 3 should be X86 only with an Atom/AMD whatever, then the Pro with the i5.