Not my month/year

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Allnamestaken

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So after I left my previous excuse of an employer, I was promised one months notice plus holiday pay.

It's great to know that what they actually meant was not even half that amount let alone the holiday pay.

This company existed solely to milk a government contract and provide a bare minimum service on what they were contracted to do.

A contract aimed at the unemployed so not only where they bad at that but they don't even know how to pay there staff and ex staff properly.

I am so so mad about this. The centre I worked for alone had enough issues to breach the contract let alone the rest of centres around the country.

Then to make things worse half the components in the three grand computer I built are faulty Pfft. Atleast overclockers are good with there Rma department but it's just as if nothing is going right.

I felt so happy leaving them and now I'm reminded of the extreme incompetence of that company in that they can't even pay me correctly.

One months pay does not mean two weeks at minimum wage.


I'm just trying to support myself and my mother and I only have myself and I just keep getting knocked and it's really getting to me.


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Similar but less dramatic situation with me! Took a supposed full time bar job, am lucky to do 4 days a week. Got a kid on the way and need to find somewhere to live! Needless to say I am applying for everything going atm :(
 
I wouldn't go in there all guns blazing. Gather all your details, paperwork and evidence of what you're owed and talk to them normally. If you don't get anywhere then, then go postal at them.
 
Liquid_Entity said:
I wouldn't go in there all guns blazing. Gather all your details, paperwork and evidence of what you're owed and talk to them normally. If you don't get anywhere then, then go postal at them.
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This this this. Be calm and polite. Ask them why you haven't be paid what you are owed. If you are getting no where then you unleash the beast. It may be an honest mistake?
 
Liquid_Entity said:
I wouldn't go in there all guns blazing. Gather all your details, paperwork and evidence of what you're owed and talk to them normally. If you don't get anywhere then, then go postal at them.
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That's the right approach.

I personally would take it up with the HR department followed by Payroll and keep your old director out of it
 
Why is it people are so ready to let their employers shaft them?

I could pretty much recite my employment contract and all (highly) relevant legislation, for anything I can't do there's Mr. Union rep.

See what you are contractually owed and get back to them, you should really have kept a record of them promising you a months money and holiday pay.

Companies like this don't react to reasonable behavior - trust me, I know. You need to get some leverage and use it to maneuver their (metaphorical) balls into a vice, then slowly begin turning until they give you what is owed, then make sure you leave a mark so other employees have some sort of clue as to what is going on.

If you don't gather the leverage, you wont get your feed, don't forget that people are fundamentally selfish greedy creatures at their core, we choose to rise above it to some extent, not everyone makes that choice.
 
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It sounds like he has a fair bit of leverage on them if he has information of contractual breaches. If this is to the government I am sure they will be interested to hear the potentially problematic breaches by a contracted company.
 
pitchfork said:
Why is it people are so ready to let their employers shaft them?

I could pretty much recite my employment contract and all (highly) relevant legislation, for anything I can't do there's Mr. Union rep.

See what you are contractually owed and get back to them, you should really have kept a record of them promising you a months money and holiday pay.

Companies like this don't react to reasonable behavior - trust me, I know. You need to get some leverage and use it to maneuver their (metaphorical) balls into a vice, then slowly begin turning until they give you what is owed, then make sure you leave a mark so other employees have some sort of clue as to what is going on.

If you don't gather the leverage, you wont get your feed, don't forget that people are fundamentally selfish greedy creatures at their core, we choose to rise above it to some extent, not everyone makes that choice.
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I don't see anyone saying forget it and let them shaft you :confused: Just saying act like a reasonable human being at least at first just in case it really was a genuine mistake.
If someone instantly comes at me all guns blazing I shut off and they get **** all in the way of help from me, if they're reasonable then I'm more than happy to do whatever I can to help them out.
 
So it seems 1 months notice is not 1 months notice for Seetec.

1 months notice is 3 weeks pay and 1 week in arrears because I didnt work the last week.

Well I was told by letter and face 1 months notice not 3 weeks notice.

The contract says nothing about us being payed 3 weeks and 1 week in arrears it just says 1 months notice pay.

I don't know about you but 1 month means 1 month.
 
tom_e said:
I don't see anyone saying forget it and let them shaft you :confused: Just saying act like a reasonable human being at least at first just in case it really was a genuine mistake.
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We know it wasn't a genuine mistake, past behaviour is indicative of future behaviour in most cases. The company is trying to shaft him, someone has going into payroll "Give OP 2 weeks minimum wage, he's leaving, if we ignore him long enough he'll give up trying to get his cash back"

If someone instantly comes at me all guns blazing I shut off and they get **** all in the way of help from me, if they're reasonable then I'm more than happy to do whatever I can to help them out.
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We don't have priors so how am I to know your nature? I was talking specifically about firms like this.

OP has given us sufficient background to indicate his company like many companies is run by ********* with no regard for peoples livelihoods - there is no reasoning with those people, especially not where money is concerned.

And if I had leverage you'd be forced help me either way, it's not something I want to do but in general it's the only thing which actually works in these situations.
 
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I was an RMT H&S Rep till recently and if you want me to have a look at your contract, fire it over :)

1 month to me means 1 month but don't lose your rag and always remain calm. The Law is on your side if it is in your contract.
 
Gregster said:
I was an RMT H&S Rep till recently and if you want me to have a look at your contract, fire it over :)

1 month to me means 1 month but don't lose your rag and always remain calm. The Law is on your side if it is in your contract.
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Hey bud really appreciate your input, I am trying to find my paper copy :(.

Our contract was changed some time last year and its all on paper so trying to find it now.

Our notice period was not changed in the updated contracts.

I would like to add guys that they did deducted SSP from me in January without prior notice.

According to law I would need to be notified in advance so I can fill out a SSP 1 form. This allows me to be compensated loss of income.

They did not give me notice and I was not even told I would be receiving SSP.


Seetec really are a cowboy company.
 
"Hi Craig, thanks for the note. I have checked with payroll and you were paid the correct monies.

You have been paid up until 23 February, which is one months full notice pay + 1 days holiday from your leave date on the 22nd January. You were not paid for w/c 24 February.

I’m afraid this matter is now closed. thanks"


This is what I get from the HR director regarding the missing weeks pay.
 
Devils advocate here but why give us a sob story about supporting yourself and your mother yet a few lines before it you mention your 3 grand PC :S
 
James J said:
Devils advocate here but why give us a sob story about supporting yourself and your mother yet a few lines before it you mention your 3 grand PC :S
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Because I am talking about how my year is not going so great..... and that in spending that money I ran into problems which for the money I spent should not have been so numerous.


I don't see your point.
 
Gregster said:
When did your employment end with them? Last day of work that is?
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22nd Of January to be precise.

I was told there and then I would receive 1 months notice and further on from that I was told via letter.

Frustrating thing is no where do they mention anything about overpayments or being paid less then 1 months notice.

Amy the HR Dir is trying to now side step me in that email by not even responding to many of the questions asked.

I think she is thinking I will just drop it.
 
Allnamestaken said:
This company existed solely to milk a government contract and provide a bare minimum service on what they were contracted to do.
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This is another thread, but it's worth saying...

People moan that state-run organisations are inefficient and waste money. The current government loves to drone on about Public/Private partnerships, like they are the answer.

In reality, however, *all* private sector contractors set themselves up to 'milk' the government for every penny they can get. Seen it time and again.

So now instead of inefficient pubic sector workers being a drain on our economy, you have private sector contractors being a drain on our economy, offering the *lowest* level of service they can get away with.

Thanks, Obama Cameron.
 
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