GeForce 750Ti – Runs Battlefield 4 Better Than PS4 & Titanfall Better Than Xbox One

TheRealDeal · 22 Feb 2014 at 21:30

triss said:
He might be comparing it to that But thats not where Nvidia placed it.
Card prices often change as market changes and cards get older and due to sales
Thats why even in your own Example the 660 was £155.99 inc VAT and atm its on sale at £129.95 inc VAT
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-228-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1866

MSI Radeon R7 260X OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £109.99 inc VAT

The 750ti is £113.99 inc VAT I'd hardly call that the same price bracket tbh
i dont see long threads with graph spam stating how the gtx 260x is a terrible card and why people shouldn't buy it despite it being around a 750ti price.
Would I personally shop around grab a deal for a faster card yes
Would i expect a deal on a brand new card No
Early adopters often end up paying a price premium but this time round the premium is at the lower end not the high end
As i said at the start it is a nice card and gives a good gain over what its replacing for less power
Sorry for the long post i recommend both AMD and Nvidia and run both in my own and familys machines. Its just annoying how certain people on both sides often seem to try and push a agenda against certain vendors when a card is mentioned or released

I think most of these arguments come down to Gpu's not moving along fast like they used to. As Cat said he got his gtx660 a year ago for not much more than the price of the gtx750ti. We used to get year on year the tier below matching or beating the tier above. All the 750ti brings to the table is less performance than the tier above with lower power and not far off in price.

What the gtx750ti is is good engineering but not very exciting from a gamers point of view. If it scales up nicely to the high end then Nvidia may be on to a winner but we are comparing Nvidia's latest to AMD/Nvidia's old tech so for me it's a waiting game to see the actual outcome. Nvidia's power usage this Gen was pretty nice as well if i am being honest. Gtx780/titan/ti were all using less power compared to what i expected.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 22 Feb 2014 at 21:43

Gregster said:
Well, when we look at it like this,

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-188-GW&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1854

£120 for that 750Ti

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-328-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1982

£144 for that 270X

You can clearly see that the 750Ti is the price performance king and you will save even more money, as it is far more efficient than the 270X. I always picture people who buy these cards as price aware and £24 saving is not to be sniffed at.

triss said:
He might be comparing it to that But thats not where Nvidia placed it.
Card prices often change as market changes and cards get older and due to sales
Thats why even in your own Example the 660 was £155.99 inc VAT and atm its on sale at £129.95 inc VAT
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-228-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1866

MSI Radeon R7 260X OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £109.99 inc VAT

The 750ti is £113.99 inc VAT I'd hardly call that the same price bracket tbh
i dont see long threads with graph spam stating how the gtx 260x is a terrible card and why people shouldn't buy it despite it being around a 750ti price.
Would I personally shop around grab a deal for a faster card yes
Would i expect a deal on a brand new card No
Early adopters often end up paying a price premium but this time round the premium is at the lower end not the high end
As i said at the start it is a nice card and gives a good gain over what its replacing for less power
Sorry for the long post i recommend both AMD and Nvidia and run both in my own and familys machines. Its just annoying how certain people on both sides often seem to try and push a agenda against certain vendors when a card is mentioned or released

Oh don't start all that sillyness about agenda. You are trying to massively deflect the fact the GTX660 and R9 270 can be had for £120 to £135 easily. Those cards OcUK sell are some of the best examples of the cards too,not a single fan rubbish one.

Oh wait!! GTX660 AND R9 270. One is Nvidia and one is AMD.

OMFG I recommend a Nvidia card - how is that possible?? Panic Stations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have done a few £500 to £550 builds this year(or helped people out),and they all had GTX660 or R9 270 cards. Moreover,the overclocked GTX750TI cards people go on about are £120 to £130. But of course thats forgetting the HD7850 cards which are floating about too or even the R7 265 which is meant to be under £120,but I made sure I ignored those until we see final pricing.

Nobody gives a rats backside about positioning only the price. Actually I appreciate people like the TheRealDeal bothering to read what I said.

Moreover,this is why I keep quoting the same posts again and again,since people seem to keep ignoring what was being replied to. I keep reminding what the response was to,not conspiracy theories of me hating Nvidia and spamming threads. So posting data is spamming just because you CBA to read anything.

Oh so just because I don't accept the GTX750TI with love and cuddles and kisses as the bestest little card in the world,I must be a hater then.

I have a GTX660 and a 9300 IGP in my mini-ITX systems. Of the last two older systems I upgraded,one had a GTX650TI Boost 2GB and the other an HD7850 2GB.

Oh wait I must want Nvidia to DIE!DIE!DIE!DIE! Thats why I bought a GTX660.

I hate Nvidia SOOOO MUCH I bought a GTX660.

Yes,that must be it! :rolleyes:

Tonester0011 · 22 Feb 2014 at 21:55

TheRealDeal said:
What the gtx750ti is is good engineering but not very exciting from a gamers point of view. If it scales up nicely to the high end then Nvidia may be on to a winner but we are comparing Nvidia's latest to AMD/Nvidia's old tech so for me it's a waiting game to see the actual outcome. Nvidia's power usage this Gen was pretty nice as well if i am being honest. Gtx780/titan/ti were all using less power compared to what i expected.

^ that in a nutshell for me.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 22 Feb 2014 at 22:07

In late April 2013 I bought my GTX660 for £139.99 delivered plus £5 cashback,making it £134.99 instead. I checked my statements to see the exact date.

It also came with a pre-order copy of Metro:Last Light which was worth at least £25 to £30 if I pre-ordered the game. I would have paid at least £25 for that game anyway.

BTW,the GTX650TI Boost 2GB I found for my mate was the Zotac one which was pre-overclocked and came with the £50 credit thingy for £104 delivered. He sold the credit and the card was essentially under £100. The best GTX650TI model ever for under £100.

That HD7850 2GB was £90 delivered from OcUK with loads of free games including Bioshock and Thief.

Helped someone I know spec a build just this week - a R9 270 in a build at just over £500 including OS.

Wow! I can see the new releases really upping the price/performance tally now.

Now,its just a cheaper to make,slower part which they can use MAXIMUM PR to sell to people. Not even any free games or game credit last time I checked.Yes it consumes under 150W at the wall instead of under 200W on average with a Core i7 and is slower. You can save MEGA-POUNDS now.

I can save all the Pandas and Dolphins while getting lower framerates. Yay. Thank you PR for making me realise things I never realised before. When I visit said Panda and Dolphins I can use a man powered canoe - screw flying. Its faster but it kills all the fluffy bunnies. I can save on food by catching random fish swimming by.

You know why I should I care?? The gullible lot can spend more money for less. It also means the rest of us can get the better bargains.

Yep,how foolish of me.

triss · 22 Feb 2014 at 22:18

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Oh don't start all that sillyness about agenda. You are trying to massively deflect the fact the GTX660 and R9 270 can be had for £120 to £135 easily. Those cards OcUK sell are some of the best examples of the cards too,not a single fan rubbish one.

Oh wait!! GTX660 AND R9 270. One is Nvidia and one is AMD.

OMFG I recommend a Nvidia card - how is that possible?? Panic Stations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have done a few £500 to £550 builds this year(or helped people out),and they all had GTX660 or R9 270 cards. Moreover,the overclocked GTX750TI cards people go on about are £120 to £130. But of course thats forgetting the HD7850 cards which are floating about too or even the R7 265 which is meant to be under £120,but I made sure I ignored those until we see final pricing.

Nobody gives a rats backside about positioning only the price. Actually I appreciate people like the TheRealDeal bothering to read what I said.

Moreover,this is why I keep quoting the same posts again and again,since people seem to keep ignoring what was being replied to. I keep reminding what the response was to,not conspiracy theories of me hating Nvidia and spamming threads. So posting data is spamming just because you CBA to read anything.

Oh so just because I don't accept the GTX750TI with love and cuddles and kisses as the bestest little card in the world,I must be a hater then.

I have a GTX660 and a 9300 IGP in my mini-ITX systems. Of the last two systems I upgraded,one had a GTX650TI Boost 2GB and the other an HD7850 2GB.

Oh wait I must want Nvidia to DIE!DIE!DIE!DIE! Thats why I bought a GTX660.

I hate Nvidia SOOOO MUCH I bought a GTX660.

Yes,that must be it!

I'm not deflecting anything what you are doing is ignoring the fact this isnt aimed at a 270 or a 660 as even stated buy you in the Nvidia slide you posted...
But somehow you seem to think if you repeatedly spam the same graph then everything will be ok...

You are trying to massively deflect the fact the GTX660 and R9 270 can be had for £120 to £135 easily

If you choose to actually read the 660 listed is "on sale"
Let me know when theres a 30quid sale on the 750ti and what bad value it is
Nvidia have often priced there cards higher than the equivlant AMD not sure thats new's to anyone
AS stated compared to the 260x which its actually positioned and priced reasonably with its not a bad Card .But you dont seem to understand this

TheRealDeal · 22 Feb 2014 at 22:23

triss said:
I'm not deflecting anything what you are doing is ignoring the fact this isnt aimed at a 270 or a 660 as even stated buy you in the Nvidia slide you posted...
But somehow you seem to think if you repeatedly spam the same graph then everything will be ok...

If you choose to actually read the 660 listed is "on sale"
Let me know when theres a 30quid sale on the 750ti and what bad value it is
Nvidia have often priced there cards higher than the equivlant AMD not sure thats new's to anyone
AS stated compared to the 260x which its actually positioned and priced reasonably with its not a bad Card .But you dont seem to understand this

No this one is not on offer and its the cheapest. It does not say this week only but does say used to be this price. It probably got a price drop at some point.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-036-KF&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=2379

At it's current price point the 750ti just makes little sense from a gaming point of view.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 22 Feb 2014 at 22:37

triss said:
I'm not deflecting anything what you are doing is ignoring the fact this isnt aimed at a 270 or a 660 as even stated buy you in the Nvidia slide you posted...
But somehow you seem to think if you repeatedly spam the same graph then everything will be ok...

If you choose to actually read the 660 listed is "on sale"
Let me know when theres a 30quid sale on the 750ti and what bad value it is
Nvidia have often priced there cards higher than the equivlant AMD not sure thats new's to anyone
AS stated compared to the 260x which its actually positioned and priced reasonably with its not a bad Card .But you dont seem to understand this

Yes you are deflecting and you don't seem to realise the current pricing of the GTX660 and R9 270 in the UK.

The R7 260X is overpriced and I have mentioned that before. You could get HD7850 cards for the same price - why even bother with it??

The HD7790 is far cheaper usually and is the same card outside some tweaks.

I had a quick look at multiple UK retailers for GTX660 prices - there are loads at £130 to £140,and quite a few nearer £130. That excludes the R9 270 which too is priced quite low.

This is one is not on offer:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-036-KF&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=2379

Its the best price for a decent GTX660 in the UK,and its the card I linked to.

GTX750TI cards,especially the pre-overclocked ones like the Palit are £120 to £130. Hence the GTX660 and R9 270 are valid comparisons.

triss · 22 Feb 2014 at 22:38

TheRealDeal said:
No this one is not on offer and its the cheapest. It does not say this week only but does say used to be this price. It probably got a price drop at some point.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-036-KF&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=2379

At it's current price point the 750ti just makes little sense from a gaming point of view.

Gaming for most of us i'd tend to agree but since there seem to be quite a few low end cards i'd imagine they sell well

Doesnt that one say was £155.99 inc VAT above the price? and its cheaper that the lower Speced
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-038-KF&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=2379
Which is on a weekly sale
Maybe its old stock they scored a deal i dont presume to know
Yes at the Discounted price the 660 is a great deal no arguments from me there
I think the whole thing is normally we see the Top cards at a price Premium for a new design EG titans ,290x's and we dont mind so much this time the premium is at the lower end and people cant quite get there head around it the same
But yes the older design higher end card in this situation is better performance per $$ at the discounted price
Still not sure how any of this is relevant tbh to the thread but oh well nvm sorry for going off topic

@Cat

You are the one spamming

I'd have a wee look buddy at just how many times you used the same graph on one page before you try that Nice edit thou

Tonester0011 · 22 Feb 2014 at 22:43

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Yes you are deflecting and you just keep ignoring the pricing in the WHOLE UK. Go on Google and look at EVERY UK based retailer. You are the one spamming and in denial at the current pricing of the GTX660 and R9 270 in the UK.

I had a quick look 5 UK retailers for GTX660 prices - there are 19 at £130 to £140,and quite a few nearer £130. That excludes the R9 270 which too is price quite low.

This is one is not on offer:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-036-KF&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=2379

Its the best price for a decent GTX660 in the UK.

6** series is now EOL, so you're bound to get bargain prices lol. That card you listed might not be on 'offer' but it is reduced, same as the remaining 670s (they were £230+ the other week, all reduced but not on 'offer')

The 750ti replaces the 650/650ti. Just like the 760 replaced the 660/660ti.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 22 Feb 2014 at 22:50

Tonester0011 said:
6** series is now EOL, so you're bound to get bargain prices lol. That card you listed might not be on 'offer' but it is reduced, same as the remaining 670s (they were £230+ the other week, all reduced but not on 'offer')

The 750ti replaces the 650/650ti. Just like the 760 replaced the 660/660ti.

According to Nvidia its still in the product stack is still part of the lineup:

http://i.imgur.com/5Pm70Wi.jpg

Moreover,the R9 270 is not EOL and is flipping cheap now.

Also,that £130 to £140 price for a GTX660 could be had in April last year with a free game,ie,Metro:Last Light.

Until retailers stop selling or increase the price of the GTX660 and R9 270,they are far too close to GTX750TI pricing.

That means,the card needs a price cut. It really should be a £80 to £100 card in the current lineup.

The less said about the R7 260X the better. Everytime someone I knew was thinking of getting one I could find an HD7850 instead.

Gregster said:
Well, when we look at it like this,

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-188-GW&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1854

£120 for that 750Ti

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-328-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1982

£144 for that 270X

You can clearly see that the 750Ti is the price performance king and you will save even more money, as it is far more efficient than the 270X. I always picture people who buy these cards as price aware and £24 saving is not to be sniffed at.

triss said:
He might be comparing it to that But thats not where Nvidia placed it.
Card prices often change as market changes and cards get older and due to sales
Thats why even in your own Example the 660 was £155.99 inc VAT and atm its on sale at £129.95 inc VAT
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-228-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1866

MSI Radeon R7 260X OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £109.99 inc VAT

The 750ti is £113.99 inc VAT I'd hardly call that the same price bracket tbh
i dont see long threads with graph spam stating how the gtx 260x is a terrible card and why people shouldn't buy it despite it being around a 750ti price.
Would I personally shop around grab a deal for a faster card yes
Would i expect a deal on a brand new card No
Early adopters often end up paying a price premium but this time round the premium is at the lower end not the high end
As i said at the start it is a nice card and gives a good gain over what its replacing for less power
Sorry for the long post i recommend both AMD and Nvidia and run both in my own and familys machines. Its just annoying how certain people on both sides often seem to try and push a agenda against certain vendors when a card is mentioned or released

triss said:
@cat I'd have a wee look buddy at just how many times you used the same graph on one page before you try that Nice edit thou

Yes,it had to be repeatedly repeated to people who on purpose try to misrepresent what I was responding to and accuse people of agendas. You included.

Everytime a misinformed post like yours come along,I will quote the post I responded to and my reply. Repeatedly until it gets into your head. Don't try to push the blasted agenda crap.

The TWO posts are in order.

You on purpose IGNORED the post I responded to,which I quoted.

Maybe next time you need to read the thread.

You didn't even realise I had a Nvidia card myself.

Ignore more and don't bother to read.It suits your agenda. Deflect more.

TheRealDeal · 22 Feb 2014 at 22:51

Tonester0011 said:
6** series is now EOL, so you're bound to get bargain prices lol. That card you listed might not be on 'offer' but it is reduced, same as the remaining 670s (they were £230+ the other week, all reduced but not on 'offer')

The 750ti replaces the 650/650ti. Just like the 760 replaced the 660/660ti.

I am not so sure the gtx660 is end of life. The gtx760 has been around a long time now but it replaced the 670 660ti. The gtx670 and 660ti went out of stock quickly where as if you look at the gtx660 stock there's still plenty.

Edit: Beaten to it.

Tonester0011 · 22 Feb 2014 at 23:07

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
According to Nvidia its still in the product stack is still part of the lineup:

http://i.imgur.com/5Pm70Wi.jpg

Moreover,the R9 270 is not EOL and is flipping cheap now.

Also,that £130 to £140 price for a GTX660 could be had in April last year with a free game,ie,Metro:Last Light.

Fair enough

I agree with the pricing in terms of better can be had for not a lot more. I've built a good few budget builds and admittedly always go second hand as you get a lot more bang for buck. £140 for a GTX670, £60 for a HD7850 etc.

Still a reduced price

AMD also have always offered better value for money, so if you don't need PhysX or 3Dvision going AMD for pure FPS and a gaming perspective makes complete sense.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 22 Feb 2014 at 23:09

You see there are those have already have belief the GTX750TI is amazing price/performance.

It comes from reading American reviews where there has been price gouging on AMD cards.

In the US things are very different than here.

The moment it is shown the GTX660 and R9 270 in the UK are close in price yet faster,it deflates this idillic view of the GTX750TI. Hence they need to keep pushing the GTX750TI at its current price,even if the GTX780TI was £100. Hence they have to just misrepresent everything and ignore the GTX660 and R9 270 being better price/performance.

Then it needs to be turned into some AMD vs Nvidia thing just to deflect from the original post.

But let them buy the GTX750TI in droves. It means the rest of us get better deals on the GTX660 and R9 270.

Tonester0011 said:
Fair enough
I agree with the pricing in terms of better can be had for not a lot more. I've built a good few budget builds and admittedly always go second hand as you get a lot more bang for buck. £140 for a GTX670, £60 for a HD7850 etc.

Still a reduced price AMD also have always offered better value for money, so if you don't need PhysX or 3Dvision going AMD for pure FPS and a gaming perspective makes complete sense.

I mean if the GTX750TI was like £80 to £100 it would be different,but until the other cards are sold out,or rise in price,its not really easy to recommend.

The problem is the £120 to £130 GTX750TI cards are the ones which can kind of compete with the GTX660 and R9 270(but still it is hit and miss).

Its just utter stagnation.

AMD did not help with the R7 260X too. The HD7770 and HD7790 tended to be cheaper. I think AMD must have overstated the selling effect of Trueaudio.

Secondhand can be a good way to save money,providing you know what you are doing.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 22 Feb 2014 at 23:23

I had a look on Newegg.

The cheapest GTX750TI is a Gigabyte one for around $160.

The cheapest R9 270 is a XFX one for around $240.

So that is an $80 difference,ie,around £48.

The cheapest GTX660 is $30 to $40 more and the HD7850 is price comparable but hardly in stock so is a no show.

However,you can understand why US reviews are more positive as a whole.

OTH,the GTX660 cards come with Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag so even in the US the GTX750TI is not a slam dunk over the GTX660.

In the UK the R9 270 is not so overpriced. So over here the GTX750TI has far more competition than in the US.

Tonester0011 · 22 Feb 2014 at 23:25

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I mean if the GTX750TI was like £80 to £100 it would be different,but until the other cards are sold out,or rise in price,its not really easy to recommend.

The problem is the £120 to £130 GTX750TI cards are the ones which can kind of compete with the GTX660 and R9 270(but still it is hit and miss).

Its just utter stagnation.

AMD did not help with the R7 260X too. The HD7770 and HD7790 tended to be cheaper. I think AMD must have overstated the selling effect of Trueaudio.

I agree mate, the only time you'd have to make an exception and get the cheaper card is when you've got a very strict budget (though i bet you'll be able to work the setup to allow the extra £20 to get the better performing card

)

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Secondhand can be a good way to save money,providing you know what you are doing.

Members Market

Most things are priced very well, most people will help out with warranty if something happens. If you're lucky enough you'll grab some serious bargains

(like a 3770k for £100

)

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 22 Feb 2014 at 23:34

I know process nodes are to blame but I remember the times of the 6600GT,7600GT,etc. The next midrange card would match the last high end card,etc. Its not happened for years. Those were the good days.

Utter stagnation now in performance at under £150. I really hope with the improved Nvidia DX11 driver threading and Mantle we can at least get some more performance out of cards,otherwise we will be getting a 20% faster replacement than a £130 R9 270 or GTX660 at 20NM, with 50% less power consumed for a 35% increase in price. Plus they will have a tiny die with a 128 bit memory controller to offset any extra costs.

Just great for mobile. Maybe at this rate Intel will catch up with their IGPs.

BTW,£100 for a Core i7 3770K!! That is a good price.

l2ez4m · 23 Feb 2014 at 01:09

The way i look at these mainstream/upper mainstream cards - 7850/265/660/750ti and lets be honest neither of them
gonna break any performance records nor add any substantial difference in either TOP10 Steam games or countless
mmo's (World of Tanks/Planes, WarThunder, Final Fantasy, World of Warcraft, Lol, D3, Torchlight, Dota ect ect)
ie those proverbial elephants on whom the very essence of PC Gaming world is resting.
So for all these millions casual, mainstream Pc gamers, unfortunate oem boxes upgraders (power restrictions), low
end steambox, pseudo-console replacement pc builders, affordable Htpc buyers (space/power constraints), even for
eco minded miners - 750ti is looking to be very attractive option.
Of course looking from kosher enthusiast perspective its just another boring low ender.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 23 Feb 2014 at 01:45

Yet the GTX750TI is still slower. At this end of the market every bit of performance is important. For anyone not indoctrinated by the whole new=better stuff,the GTX660 and R9 270 are simply better buys.Period.

The GTX660 and R9 270 at £120 to £135 are fantastic cards,which are being negated for no reason,apart from "old model" E-PEEN.

Also as indicated earlier there is at least a £48 difference between the GTX750TI and the R9 270 on Newegg in the US.

Here,the difference is as little as £15. The same applies to the GTX660.

The GTX750TI will fall back more and more as time progresses compared to the GTX660 and R9 270.

I have never seen such string belief for a graphics card in the last decade. However,I expect all the pictures I post from three different reviews will be ignored by indoctrinated,called spam and then it will be made out in some way that I HATE Nvidia.

The cheap person pays twice.

triss · 23 Feb 2014 at 02:10

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
According to Nvidia its still in the product stack is still part of the lineup:

http://i.imgur.com/5Pm70Wi.jpg

Moreover,the R9 270 is not EOL and is flipping cheap now.

Also,that £130 to £140 price for a GTX660 could be had in April last year with a free game,ie,Metro:Last Light.

Until retailers stop selling or increase the price of the GTX660 and R9 270,they are far too close to GTX750TI pricing.

That means,the card needs a price cut. It really should be a £80 to £100 card in the current lineup.

The less said about the R7 260X the better. Everytime someone I knew was thinking of getting one I could find an HD7850 instead.

Yes,it had to be repeatedly repeated to people who on purpose try to misrepresent what I was responding to and accuse people of agendas. You included.

Everytime a misinformed post like yours come along,I will quote the post I responded to and my reply. Repeatedly until it gets into your head. Don't try to push the blasted agenda crap.

The TWO posts are in order.

You on purpose IGNORED the post I responded to,which I quoted.

Maybe next time you need to read the thread.

You didn't even realise I had a Nvidia card myself.

Ignore more and don't bother to read.It suits your agenda. Deflect more.

Point A please point me to these posts of mine in bweteen your graph spam, oh right none of my posts there ,Wrong one count
Point B please point to any post i made that stated indicate you dont own a Nvidia card? opps once again wrong thats two
Point C i personaly dont care what cards someone owns
For someone that says everyone else is ignoring them and not reading posts your not doing well
Spam wise did it help reposting graphs or did people simply decide you wernt worth bothering as you went aggressive??
oh feel free aswell to show whatever posts i singled you out as being someone with a agenda
My words "Its just annoying how certain people on both sides often seem to try and push a agenda against certain vendors when a card is mentioned or released" dont see u mentioned there btw

Maybe next time you need to read the thread.

Gotta love this quote of yours

GeForce 750Ti – Runs Battlefield 4 Better Than PS4 & Titanfall Better Than Xbox One
Thread title strangely i dont see anything in it about how it compares pricewise to a 660

this is gone farenough off topic i'm not going to bother to your pointless relies here anymore , You often have good advice but i guess you woke up on the wrong side of bed today,

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 23 Feb 2014 at 02:17

triss said:
Point A please point me to these posts of mine in bweteen your graph spam, oh right none of my posts there ,Wrong one count
Point B please point to any post i made that stated indicate you dont own a Nvidia card? opps once again wrong thats two
Point C i personaly dont care what cards someone owns
For someone that says everyone else is ignoring them and not reading posts your not doing well
Spam wise did it help reposting graphs or did people simply decide you wernt worth bothering as you went aggressive??

Gotta love this quote of yours

GeForce 750Ti – Runs Battlefield 4 Better Than PS4 & Titanfall Better Than Xbox One
Thread title strangely i dont see anything in it about how it compares pricewise to a 660

Again ignore this post again:

Gregster said:
Well, when we look at it like this,

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-188-GW&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1854

£120 for that 750Ti

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-328-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1982

£144 for that 270X

You can clearly see that the 750Ti is the price performance king and you will save even more money, as it is far more efficient than the 270X. I always picture people who buy these cards as price aware and £24 saving is not to be sniffed at.

Is that clear enough for you?? I expect not.

As indicated by the picture,I responded to that post. I pointed out the GTX660 and R9 270 in that reply. Not the R9 270X which consumes more power and even at the stated £144 was cheap,but still £15 more than a GTX660 or R9 270.

Showing proof that PSU requirements for the GTX660 and R9 270 were not high. That anyone with a decent 350W to 400W PSU would be fine. All I got was people accusing me of XYZ and deflecting repeatedly.

For what?? Showing that the GTX660 and R9 270 were £120 to £135 which is the same price range as many of the aftermarket GTX750TI based cards,and faster too.

People who are so indoctrinated by the PR of the GTX750TI launch, they cling to it while repeatedly deflecting loads of data presented,just for opinion.

The card is slower and many of the GTX750TI models are not cheaper.

Its because people read US based GTX750TI reviews with US pricing taking into consideration.

Where the AMD competitors are out of stock and silly priced in comparison.

Even there the GTX660 is only a few dollars more with an AAA game included.

However,this is not the US,it is the UK and pricing is different.

But you know what?? Why should I care??

Let people pay more over the longterm for something slower. PR hype is not going to make games run faster,but I expect many people think it will.

Good for me though,as it means I can get bargains for people I know,who can get best bang for buck.

EVERYONE,get a GTX750TI - ignore the GTX660,R9 270,R9 270X,R9 280 non-X and GTX760!! That extra performance is of no real use to you.

You can SLI it for MOAR performance. Wait! Nvidia cut that out of the silicon to save power and reduce costs. Damn! Got to save the Pandas and Bunny Rabbits. They might bless your games to run faster.