Work capability assessments stopped.

Breaking news, all assessments for the sick and disabled have been suspended indefinitely.

http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/2645-all-repeat-wca-medicals-to-be-stopped

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It's hardly indefinitely. It's just till they outsource the job to another private company who will no doubt promise Mr. Camermoron that they will get more sick pick people off ESA and dump them into extreme poverty in order to help ease the strain on the wellfare budget.

In an urgent memo obtained by Benefits and Work, the DWP have told staff that due to a growing backlog at Atos all current employment and support allowance (ESA) claimants will be left on the benefit, without further medical checks, until another company can be found to do repeat work capability assessments (WCAs)
 
Am I an idiot or is this not something that GPs can/should do? They already sign people off work in the short term, why not have them do the assessments and pass their findings up to the DWP?

Or is the problem that you can't make GPs hit targets?
 
Am I an idiot or is this not something that GPs can/should do? They already sign people off work in the short term, why not have them do the assessments and pass their findings up to the DWP?

Or is the problem that you can't make GPs hit targets?

because people get lots of assessments, if this was down to gp's good luck ever getting to see yours again.

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Am I an idiot or is this not something that GPs can/should do? They already sign people off work in the short term, why not have them do the assessments and pass their findings up to the DWP?

Or is the problem that you can't make GPs hit targets?

No you're not an idiot. GP's and other health professionals are best equipped to make these decisions but this Tory government knows they can throw more people off these benefits by circumnavigating the NHS and using private companies instead. Private companies who don't really give a toss about the people they deal with but are instead more interested in hitting targets, regardless of the harm they cause to people.
 
No you're not an idiot. GP's and other health professionals are best equipped to make these decisions but this Tory government knows they can throw more people off these benefits by circumnavigating the NHS and using private companies instead. Private companies who don't really give a toss about the people they deal with but are instead more interested in hitting targets, regardless of the harm they cause to people.

You know this was a labour policy and atos was hired by a labour government with a long contract right?


the torys had nothing to do with this.
 
You know this was a labour policy and atos was hired by a labour government with a long contract right?


the torys had nothing to do with this.

The Tory's are in power now and pushing this hard. They have everything to do with it my eyes.
 
Am I an idiot or is this not something that GPs can/should do? They already sign people off work in the short term, why not have them do the assessments and pass their findings up to the DWP?

Probably because GP's are better educated and sympathetic towards ailments/illnesses, ATOS will employ mouth breathers with no conscience, on low wages and who can just about complete a check list.
 
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The Tory's are in power now and pushing this hard. They have everything to do with it my eyes.

Your childish deliberate misspelling of the PM's name indicates you are a hopeless political partisan, more inclined to respond to (a possibly inaccurate) view on ideology than to reasoned debate.
 

As someone who has paranoid schizophrenia and is currently unable to hold down full time work, I can attest first hand that over the last 3/4 years the amount of support I have had from the mental health services has gone from brilliant to abysmal. Every lifeline I had has gradually been removed because of the obsessive policy of austerity which this current government has persued while at the same time giving tax breaks to the richest minority. To be honest it makes sick and angry. I wish Cameron could spend a month walking in my shoes.

My GP and my CPN and my Psychiatrist are best qualified to deal with me. Not some private company motivated by targets and profit. :(
 
Your childish deliberate misspelling of the PM's name indicates you are a hopeless political partisan, more inclined to respond to (a possibly inaccurate) view on ideology than to reasoned debate.

Absolute nonsense. Go find another pony to ride mate. :rolleyes:
 
Am I an idiot or is this not something that GPs can/should do? They already sign people off work in the short term, why not have them do the assessments and pass their findings up to the DWP?

Or is the problem that you can't make GPs hit targets?

you already need a GP fitnote before you can even claim ESA lol
 
As someone who has paranoid schizophrenia and is currently unable to hold down full time work, I can attest first hand that over the last 3/4 years the amount of support I have had from the mental health services has gone from brilliant to abysmal. Every lifeline I had has gradually been removed because of the obsessive policy of austerity which this current government has persued while at the same time giving tax breaks to the richest minority. To be honest it makes sick and angry. I wish Cameron could spend a month walking in my shoes.

My GP and my CPN and my Psychiatrist are best qualified to deal with me. Not some private company motivated by targets and profit. :(

There is this thing where, if you painfully push up spending way beyond what you have, at some point you have to do something to stop the spending. Having a go at the people trying to get spending back to something we can remotely afford while ignoring who did that absurd spending to start with is just ignorant.

Take me personally, lets say I can afford to spend £500 a month on whatever, but in fact I spend £2000 a month.... at some stage the credit card company gets a bit upset and asks me to pay it back and reduces my credit till I do. I can at this point not afford even £500 a month more because I have to actually pay money back and £500 was what I could afford. So now I pay £250 back and can afford to spend only £250.

So by overspending massively at some point you realistically have to reduce what you can actually have afforded to spend to have any chance of some financial health.

The problem is Labour's MASSIVE and disgusting overspend was on things like a 5billion ID scheme, that got scrapped, a 20billion NHS scheme, that got scrapped. When you invest £10billion in real infrastructure that both generates jobs and WORKS in the end to provide a benefit to society, then you have long term growth. For a decade Labour wasted money on projects that had no long term benefit, provided no long term jobs, and just wasted the money completely. They ran this country completely into the ground, and yet you are blaming Tories for attempting to fix this problem, not the people who generated the problem.

Labour got our finances in a disgustingly bad position and whoever was in charge had to both reduce spending and do this while having to put up with things like Atos contracts costing billions for stupid things that Labour left them with. Plans governments put in extend beyond the next election and the next PM. Many of the absurd increases in spending Labour implemented simply can't be undone until for instance contracts run out, much of the money spent can't be gotten back ever, like the money spent on the ID scheme with zero long term benefit.


Cuts in the NHS are happening because of the insane spending Labour enacted during their time in charge, if Labour were in charge they would have had to(and have said as much) do the majority of the spending cuts the Tories have done to date themselves.
 
They ran this country completely into the ground, and yet you are blaming Tories for attempting to fix this problem, not the people who generated the problem.

it does seem like letting your mate drive your car and then when he crashes at it yelling at the firemen for damaging your car as they cut you out of the wreckage.
 
Labour's spending didn't cause the recession, and no UK government can fix it either. The economy of the country will recover in line with the rest of the world. But keeping incomes low and leaving VAT at 20% isn't helping.
 
Absolute nonsense. Go find another pony to ride mate. :rolleyes:

The problem with Labour, and I'm old enough to have lived through this cycle more than once, is that sooner or later they run out of other peoples money.

We aren't mates by the way. We've never even met.
 
Labour's spending didn't cause the recession, and no UK government can fix it either. The economy of the country will recover in line with the rest of the world. But keeping incomes low and leaving VAT at 20% isn't helping.

actually capitalism and a broken economic system with a load of greedy bankers caused it ;)
 
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