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Orionaut

Orionaut

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Oopps! :eek: :(

Unfortunately with a 600+BHP electronically controlled engine. effective traction control is pretty well essential. My Brother has a supercharged Jag which is a lot less powerful than that and with the TCS switched off it is almost impossible to pull away without spinning the wheels!

(I can only imagine that the electronic throttles are rather twitchy and rely on the feedback from the TCS to stop the wheels from spinning, without it it is difficult to control the throttles sensitively enough. Not so much of a problem with traditional cable throttles but a real issue with "Drive by Wire")

If there was indeed a TCS fault that could well explain the accident, especially if the road was wet!
 
I hear it cost £170,000 when new, £40,000 in 2010 and £30,000 to maintain since then. I can't be sure though as the article is a little unclear on these details :rolleyes:
 
You cannot post a link to the Daily Mail without prior warning you know!

I don't understand why the cost is relevant, at the end of the day, the garage crashed his car in a seemingly less-than-sensible manner, it's not great no matter how much it's worth.
 
A friend of mine, who sadly passed away at the end of last year had one of these. He did 212 mph a VMax with the roof down. On a motorway near tam worth, sorry I mean in Germany, he came passed me doing 140mph in my GT3 like I was parked and I recall him chasing a big Bently back in the day where it wasn't until he got to 210mph did he catch it.

I miss my mate :(
 
Why is he persuing a claim thru his insurance?
Aren't the garage responsible for it and should claim under theirs?
Or am I misunderstanding insurance again?
 
AMG wrecking garage said:
As soon as it happened, we co-operated fully with the authorities, and the police have confirmed that the car was being driven legally and sensibly in the road conditions
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I bet they did no such thing, they probably just aren't going to press any charges to to lack of evidence.

How would the police know how it was being driven at the time, there's no mention of CCTV. Cars driven sensibly don't suddenly leave the road for no reason.
 
Why he's gone straight to the Daily Mail I don't know, would have been more productive to save that until the dealership were being unreasonable..

Unless of course they were, v few details as per usual in sensationalist Daily Fail article.

Edit: Also, three cars crashed on that road that day? :eek:
 
Dogbreath said:
I bet they did no such thing, they probably just aren't going to press any charges to to lack of evidence.

How would the police know how it was being driven at the time, there's no mention of CCTV. Cars driven sensibly don't suddenly leave the road for no reason.
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Perhaps, though as I said in the OP. I can see how a TCS failure combined with "Drive by wire" and a 600 BHP engine on a wet road could result in a spin out, even if the driver wasn't being particularly over enthusiastic. (Particularly if the TCS fault was an intermittent and happened during, say, an overtake)

The thing is. on a wider note, how would the insurance deal with something like this??

Ideally the principle is to put the owner back in the position he was in before he took the car to the dealer. But you cant just go out and buy a replacement for one of those!

It is a bit like what I tell my customer with older cars that are facing expensive repairs...

"Remember, the car isn't worth what you can sell it for. Its worth (To You!) what it would cost you to replace!"

I imagine that to actively go out and buy one of those, especially at short notice, might be very expensive! (since one would probably have to approach an existing owner and persuade them to sell)
 
How can something that looks like its been rolled, be considered "the car was being driven legally and sensibly" its gonna be that 370z story all over again.

E350 as a courtesy car is a little weak :(
 
I wouldn't be quick to condemn the driver of the car here, the article does state that there were three vehicles accidents on that stretch of road that day.

Clearly the driver wasn't driving to the conditions, but he might not have been "ragging" it and a TCS could put you in a world of pain if the conditions were really bad.
 
Think it hasn't been rolled but suffered a hard front and O/S/R hit which has pushed the electric boot up. Assuming TC was disabled as there was a problem with it or it wasn't fully working etc...I can't see this being impossible and that part of the A35 isn't the quickest of roads usually considering the traffic it sees.
 
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