Sanctions to hit part time workers

Well this will really help all the people with there lovely zero hour contracts which is what a lot of the jobs are that have been created for the majority of the people who had been unemployed long term .
 
Well I know someone who cut their hours back from 37 to 20 hours a week after they realised the extra benefits they'd get would make up for the loss in hours so it does happen.
 
I have about 10people who work part time who will not do any extra. I am not talking about massive mount of hours but if they were all to do 5 to 10 hours per week more it would help me expand my business and take on new customers. IT would also help with covering maternity until I can find more staff. So anything that will get theses people to work more would benefit me.
 
wnb said:
I have about 10people who work part time who will not do any extra. I am not talking about massive mount of hours but if they were all to do 5 to 10 hours per week more it would help me expand my business and take on new customers. IT would also help with covering maternity until I can find more staff. So anything that will get theses people to work more would benefit me.
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sack 2 and take on 2 full timers?

what am i missing?:p
 
Efour said:
what am i missing?:p
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There is a definite problem with people deliberately cutting back on work hours so they qualify for more benefits and therefore take home more money overall. It's far from unusual in low paid work.

I can't blame people for using the system as it exists, but the system has -- with the best of intentions -- become ridiculously distorting and far too expensive. We've barely scratched the surface of the cuts necessary to get the deficit under control, and some cultural changes are going to have to take place.

One of those is a move back towards council housing. Nothing fancy, just cheap, basic, healthy habitation for those in low paid work who shouldn't be at the mercy of a mercenary private sector which leeches off our taxes.

But there again, you can't blame landlords for using the system. Time for a new system.
 
wnb said:
I have about 10people who work part time who will not do any extra. I am not talking about massive mount of hours but if they were all to do 5 to 10 hours per week more it would help me expand my business and take on new customers. IT would also help with covering maternity until I can find more staff. So anything that will get theses people to work more would benefit me.
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Surely you just aren't offering them a deal they can afford to accept?
 
Amnesia said:
Full time employees are entitled to more im guessing.
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Me too,

So we have an employer not willing/able to pay enough to expand his business, yet blames the individuals for their lack of motivation because they can get benefits greater or equal to a fair market rate of pay.

Scrap the whole lousy system and start again.

We need just 1 government to have the balls to do it.

We need a fundamental shift in attitudes towards employment and fare wages not bare minimums and subsistence scrounging.

So anything that will get theses people to work more would benefit me. And they are benefiting themselves by not lining your pockets too.

I'm sorry if i took your post the wrong way i spun it that angle to make that point. Im sure many people think this way even if you don't OP and other OP. :p
 
wnb said:
I have about 10people who work part time who will not do any extra. I am not talking about massive mount of hours but if they were all to do 5 to 10 hours per week more it would help me expand my business and take on new customers. IT would also help with covering maternity until I can find more staff. So anything that will get theses people to work more would benefit me.
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How about paying more?
 
Probably going to get flamed for this, I personally work full time, although it's min wage, although what I do warrants more, but that's a different story.

I see no problem with people working less hours, allowing themselves to get benefits which cover the deficit of those missing hours, they're only using the system, the system is flawed, but people use flaws in systems all the time (Not that it makes things right, but that's how the world works)

At the end of the day, it comes down to money, why should someone work more hours without financial gain to themselves (If they're able to make up that deficit with benefits)?

The system needs a radical chance, working needs to always be to a better financial benefit that not working.
 
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