Human augmentation - and so it begins
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Can see it becoming massive in industry. Cut the workforce down an no more I can't lift this safely. Will make handling heavy things so much easier and safer. Co-ordination between several people lifting one object is at best rubbish.
Just obviously needs to be proved and reduce in price.
if you wanty to use it for heavy lifting you need it to fail safely some hoew.
what if a person is carrying aheavy object with their augmented suit and it fails, does it drop on their feet?
does it suddenly stop helping them balance at the hip/spine and they fly forward and snap at the waist as the arms still have the weight and the legs are still working but the back joint failed?
Its hardly hard to make it fail save, just like every other machine out there. You can put stop limits in and lockouts for failures.
In no way is it going to snap you at the waist.
What happens now, when 4 people are lifting a heavy object and they drop it? Steel toe caps. Most of the safety won't change.
In no way is it going to snap you at the waist.
What happens now, when 4 people are lifting a heavy object and they drop it? Steel toe caps. Most of the safety won't change.
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Can't believe this hasn't been posted yet! 
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Can't believe this hasn't been posted yet!
I tried but as im at work it wouldnt let me
i was going to post the same pic as well lollocks arn't a safe fail if you're inside the thing. leg hydraulics fail so some kind of mechanical lock engages mid step, you're now going to topple over with a very heavy object thats going to land on you.
Why is it going to land on you? As you will fall forward assuming you are holding it on front, if its on your back then its simple, you make the exoskeleton into a cage, so the weight goes through the exoskeleton and never through you.
Mechanical lock, will stop you snapping your waist as you put it, these things aren't hard and will have already been implemented. You like making mountains out of things that will have already been thought off and engineered in.
As your origin examples show. And overcome by existing safety, ie steel toe caps.
Just like any other machine there will be risks, but acceptable risks.
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To be fair I can't see these doing much more than menial tasks, A fork lift truck would out perform it in most circumstances anyway. I
Forklifts can only handle uniform weights, has no dexterity and can't handle obstacles. So you need a fairly even ground.
Its the more than ~25kilo and need dexterity that will be the market. Try fitting heavy parts together with a forklift/crane and you soon see the limitations. Let alone if your trying to fit it in a complicated area with lots of obstacles.
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Forklifts can manage an awful lot depending on what type it is and attachments it has fitted. When I said menial I meant smaller tasks like your example, 25kg-200kg objects to be moved around smaller environments a "suit" would be ideal.
As for safety it's just like you say, It's not like you carrying tonnes over your head.
As for safety it's just like you say, It's not like you carrying tonnes over your head.
so im carrying a heavy object say a 200kg anvil, i turn and slightly take a step backward the leg fails and locksyou fall backward that thing your carrying is going to land o nyou somewhere.
making it a cage isnt feasible and then adds in the possibility of say you do fall forward/side ways and it lands on one arm crusdhing the cage your arm is now pinned till it can be sawn off instead of just lifted off.
toe caps etc are not designed for simmilar loads as these machines, and there are no safety mechanisms for single handedly carrying extrememly heavy loads as there's currently no way to do it.
or say you're lifting the thing to a head hight and stumble backwards, if there is no mechanism to catch your balance or it fails a huge weight is now going to land on your chest.
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Suits designed for heavy lifting would have at a guess somekind of counter balance weight, Also to be operated in a way so that accidents as you describe don't happen.
I think we may have quite different meanings of the phrase. I can't think of anything beyond eye treatment (perhaps shoes??)
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If that were the case cars would have been banned a long time ago.
cars are very easy to get out off
it's not like your strapped in.
for example it catches fire so hydraulics fail, how do you move your self to undo the straps/locks?
the thing is going to weigh a few hundred pounds it's self.
if it ere as trivial as you're making out we'd already have them working.
heck we had massive unexpected errors with robotic arms when they were first used and they ARE trivial compared to a mechanised suit, for example when they went into gimble lock, simple solution is flip the gimble 180 degrees.......what do you think happened when a massive robotic arm decided it needed to flip one of it's joints 180 degrees in a fraction of a second?
no the whole point of the suit is that it uses it's rams to act as the counter balance, otherwise you'd have to remvoe the counter blance when you remvoed the load or at least have it o nan extending arm.