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John Carmack Says to Take Nvidia's K1 Claims with Several Grains of Salt

Mei said:
you rly think the atom is powerful enough?
the gpu on them is pretty terrible?
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The GPU on Atom is/was terrible,(At least I know this is 100% with Clovertrail, as Clovertrail's was diabolical, I don't know how gimped Baytrails HD4000 is, I'm pretty confident that Tegra 4's GPU is superior to Baytrails, regardless of Pott's hate for Nvidia :p), but RT's need for a decent GPU is somewhat none existent :p, so I'd rather take X86 and the compatibility than GPU grunt I don't need.

CPU side of Baytrail destroys my Tegra 4.
 
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Martini1991 said:
The GPU on Atom is/was terrible,(At least I know this is 100% with Clovertrail, as Clovertrail's was diabolical, I don't know how gimped Baytrails HD4000 is, I'm pretty confident that Tegra 4's GPU is superior to Baytrails, regardless of Pott's hate for Nvidia :p), but RT's need for a decent GPU is somewhat none existent :p, so I'd rather take X86 and the compatibility than GPU grunt I don't need.

CPU side of Baytrail destroys my Tegra 4.
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hehe diabolical is a good word
i duno i hope more stuff is using gpu, on web browsers etc
bored of seeing flash use so much :( you shouldnt need a i5 to stream a web video
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
So when Carmack is negative towards Mantle he's not relevant anymore and nor is anything he says.
When Carmack is negative about this Nvidia K1 thing then it's proof that it's true?

It's good that the AMD people know when he in a lucid state and when he isn't cuz I can't keep up! :)
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We have a winner. :)
 
John Carmack is just on his rags due to the fact he was passed over for being to old now to do the Milkybar Kid Commercials. :p
 
Martini1991 said:
Does Visual Studuio 2013 run on Windows RT (ARM)? I don't know.

It's quite hard to say how I feel overall.

With the Surface one, I absolutely loved the build quality, the speakers while quiet were of decent quality.

The Surface 2 seems a slight, slight downgrade in build quality for me (The kick stand feels flimsier) and the speakers crackle (I've had 2, so it's just the speakers being crap) at higher sound levels and they're a downgrade overall (You can negate the crackling by turning off tegra enhancements, they become decent quality, but useless if you're trying to watch netflix etc, as they're too quiet)

I love the Surface 2 in concept, it's a premium device (I wish it was running the Snapdragon 800 like the Nokia 2520 but meh)

Windows Store leaves a lot to be desired too, Microsoft has an OS that has strengths than Android doesn't have, but then it has weaknesses (Limitations, so things like PSX emulators can't exist currently with decent speed, yet you had 1GHZ Snapdragon single cores doing emulation ages ago, like the Xperia play etc)

At the time of my Surface 2, I also had a touchscreen netbook, frankly I find the netbook easier to use, but that's when I had the touch cover which I didn't really get on very well with (Vivobook replaced by an Acer S7 Ultrabook)
Using Windows RT is actually really easy (Some help with 8.1, 50/50 split screen etc) with the Surface 2 like, being touch screen and all.

If you can live with the RT limitations, then I'd certainly get one, but it's not a product where you like everything about it, it's a product where you like certain things, and wish others were different.

I truly believe Surface 3 should be X86 only with an Atom/AMD whatever, then the Pro with the i5.
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Thanks for the information. I'm pretty sure Visual Studio 2013 will run on the Surface 2, and it will certainly run on the Surface 3 which is what I will wait for. The speaker quality and games on it wouldn't really concern me as I'll likely use it primarily for work.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
So when Carmack is negative towards Mantle he's not relevant anymore and nor is anything he says.
When Carmack is negative about this Nvidia K1 thing then it's proof that it's true?

It's good that the AMD people know when he in a lucid state and when he isn't cuz I can't keep up! :)
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Yeah you don't seem to keep up. :rolleyes:
 
I think we can only judge it once it is in actual tablets we buy and benchmark on,what the competition is at the time and how much the tablets cost.

Until then it is an unknown.

Plus can it run Crysis?

That is the most important question!

:D
 
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PhysicsMan94 said:
Thanks for the information. I'm pretty sure Visual Studio 2013 will run on the Surface 2, and it will certainly run on the Surface 3 which is what I will wait for. The speaker quality and games on it wouldn't really concern me as I'll likely use it primarily for work.
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Unless I'm being silly, I can't see Visual Studio 2013 on my Surface 2, nor is it in the store.

Windows RT is an ARM variant of Windows (Surface 2) it won't run X86 software.

Are you sure you're not after a Surface 2 pro (700+ quid)?
 
Martini1991 said:
Unless I'm being silly, I can't see Visual Studio 2013 on my Surface 2, nor is it in the store.

Windows RT is an ARM variant of Windows (Surface 2) it won't run X86 software.

Are you sure you're not after a Surface 2 pro (700+ quid)?
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Yes, sorry, I would be getting the Pro version most likely - I don't know whether VS is supported on the non-pro versions.
 
Nvidia have not had a great history with its Tegra SoC, every single one of them Nvidia made bold claims about performance and efficiency

Only for those who bought them to find those claims turned out to be inaccurate.

If this is true its just continuing the trend.
 
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