Insurance company says car has been fixed when it is not

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I bought my other half a Ignis Sport as she needed a daily to get her to work etc and wanted something economical while being fun also. For the price the Ignis Sport was a no brainer. Bought in September and she crashed it in January while rushing to work with a frozen windscreen and actually crashed it into a car down our road :rolleyes: . Ever since it has been a ball ache to get it fixed. First time it came back body panels were not fitted correctly, the fog lights were not fitted flush and the old ones were put back on with broken clips. I sent it back to them to rectify their shoddy workmanship but also told them the wheel had been pushed back into the arch on the passenger side and had not been fixed. (Where the collision was). They keep harping on about their alignment machine is saying everything is okay but the caster is out 2 degrees from the drivers side but they assure me it is within 'tolerance' of manufacturer specifications. The ball joint is also leaking on that side but are trying to fob me off that it has been like that for a while. (I know this to be rubbish as I had the car on jacks to check it over when it was purchased).

Fast forward they ring me today to say the car has gone to a local Stoneacre for a second opinion (more cowboys). Who also said the alignment machine is in 'tolerance'. I complain about this saying the car needs to go onto a jig not on a alignment machine as bent parts can easily be put right with some adjustment masking the real problem.

His answer to me was some cars come as standard with different offsets between drivers and passenger side wheels like I was some kind of chump. I have asked members of the Suzuki Ignis owners club to measure the distances on their cars so I can give it to the insurance evaluator who I expect a phone call from tomorrow.

Drivers side which is fine.

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Passenger side wheel where the impact happened is pushed back nearly 3cm.

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I don't have pictures of the initial damage but this is what it looked like when I patched it up. I had to beat the wing with a hammer to straighten it out too. Also the car she hit managed to have its wheel bent 45 degrees so there was a lot of force put on the passenger side wheel of her car.

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Also here is some of their initial work.

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Fog light surrounds not fitted flush onto new bumper.

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Wing extension not fitted correctly and not flush.

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Original fog light surround has not been repainted since accident and clips broken on the bottom. My bill state this has been paid for and replaced as well. :confused:

I wont state who it was yet but it's one of those usual chain repair companies used by insurance companies. Is it worth sending a email to the CEO of the insurance company with images and my unhappiness? The main problem in my opinion is that the car should have gone on a jig in the first place and then written off as now the repairs are going to out value the car. (£1500 so far in repairs and that doesn't include the return of the car). This is why both the repairer and evaluator are trying to fob me off as I guess they will both get in trouble for losing the insurance company money.
 
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Just keep taking it back until they sort it to your satisfaction.
The insurers have a duty to put it back to how it was before the accident. That's what you are paying for.
 
Apologies for not having a great deal of advice other than keep pushing at them... but I'm really rather impressed at your repair job!
 
Just keep taking it back until they sort it to your satisfaction.
The insurers have a duty to put it back to how it was before the accident. That's what you are paying for.

Yeah thats the ball ache though. They keep harping on about their alignment machine like it's bible. They are even trying to tell me that having one wheel further back than the other in the arch is normal too. I can not imagine what it must be like for people dealing with these companies that know nothing about cars.

This is why I despise garages so much and do most work myself as they just can not be trusted and their fault finding is atrocious. They done the bodywork as a quick job in search of a quick buck. Not even bothering to check if everything was straight initially (Which they should have done).
 
I know how you feel. I am having a ball ache trying to get my car fixed properly after a none fault accident. It's gone down the complaints procedure.

As others have told me, don't give in just keep on at them..
 
i doubt it needs a jig, most likely the strut is bent and the wishbones are bent. there may be subframe and steering arm damage too.
 
i doubt it needs a jig, most likely the strut is bent and the wishbones are bent. there may be subframe and steering arm damage too.

There is no sub frame. The lower arms are bolted straight onto the chassis. Arm didn't look bent either just the ball joint leaking and looking like it wasn't center (I am hoping it is this as it is a simple fix for them). Yet they are adamant the leaking ball joint has nothing to do with it ;).
 
When our van was crashed the repair company didn't actually bother replacing the bent suspension component, they just adjusted the trackrod until it was almost out of thread and the wheel was straight (or some such). LAME.
 
Bunch of monkeys tbh. They will do their level best to do the least amount of work possible, fob you off and charge for more work than they actually did (or do less than they needed) in order to make some extra dollar. I had exactly this with my Honda, which had no panel damage, rather ~£2k front suspension damage. Took them 3 or 4 attempts before they conceded that both sides of the suspension needed replacing (this was rather unsurprising as the car had hit the kerb, slid on snow to the other side, hitting the kerb again). It just didn't happen to look bent.

It took 3 months to get mine sorted.
 
I had something similar with my wifes old Civic after some drink did a hit and run. The company that repaired it did a shocking job with nothing really aligning, the tailgate would only close if slammed down real hard and within 6 or so months the paint on the rear spoiler started to flake off. I got tired of taking it back to them and I suppose in the end they won as I just gave up but a few years down the road I wish I hadn't as things just got worse. So don't give up and keep hassling the insurance company and insist on speaking to their repair specialist team.
 
Firstly, sorry but what an idiot driving it with a frozen windscreen in the first place... she doesn't deserve you buying her a nice car to drive around in if doing stuff like that. Poor person she crashed into down the road... all the heartache and stress its caused them...and you. *rolls eyes*

Like the rest have said, don't settle for second best. We pay an absolute fortune for our car insurance (due to numpties crashing with frozen windscreens and so on ;P) so if you are not happy with it, take it back until it is fixed to your satisfaction. From the pictures you have shown us that work is just disgusting.

Oh, and yes I would forward on the pics to someone senior in your insurance company. They need to know what quality of work their "approved" repairers are doing. Someone needs their backside slapped for this. It's just not fair to be handed a car back in that state. I would be livid if that was my car returned in that mess.
 
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Firstly, sorry but what an idiot driving it with a frozen windscreen in the first place... she doesn't deserve you buying her a nice car to drive around in if doing stuff like that. Poor person she crashed into down the road... all the heartache and stress its caused them...and you. *rolls eyes*

Oh, and yes I would forward on the pics to someone senior in your insurance company. They need to know what quality of work their "approved" repairers are doing. Someone needs their backside slapped for this. It's just not fair to be handed a car back in that state. I would be livid if that was my car returned in that mess.

Don't you worry about that. She gets reminded about it on several occasions and I use it as a bargaining chip when I want to buy something that she doesn't want me to have ;). She is taking a awareness course later this month also.

Depending on how the car is returned to me the second time round I am going to try and get it taken to the local Suzuki dealer instead if it is not all fixed to how I want it.
 
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Don't you worry about that. She gets reminded about it on several occasions and I use it as a bargaining chip when I want to buy something that she doesn't want me to have ;).

LOL, There is that I guess. There are always positives to a negative, gains to be had after a loss. ;) :)

"Depending on how the car is returned to me the second time round I am going to try and get it taken to the local Suzuki dealer instead if it is not all fixed to how I want it."

Just as long as its not going to cost you anything. As I said, we pay a fortune for our insurance and they give us as little back in return as possible. I hope you get the car back in a better state this time. I would prob take it to Suzuki to get it checked out if you are not 100% happy with it.
 
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Yeah she left the car and ran home to get me while I was still in bed. Being in shock and all that. Neighbours opened their window to see a empty car and phoned the police who were having a quiet night . Went to town on her so I am 175 pounds lighter and have to book a day off work while she goes on this course!
 
There is no sub frame. The lower arms are bolted straight onto the chassis. Arm didn't look bent either just the ball joint leaking and looking like it wasn't center (I am hoping it is this as it is a simple fix for them). Yet they are adamant the leaking ball joint has nothing to do with it ;).

i doubt it will be just the ball joint, i cant see it pushing the wheel so far back. you have a bend somewhere else. at the minimum, the bolts that holds the wishbone to the chassis are bent.

id demand a whole new lot of suspension on that side tbh :)
 
Get a motor engineers report done on the car then send it to the insurers and threaten them with court action if they don't allow you to take the car to a proper repairer of your choice and they foot the bill...
 
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