Why doesn't drink driving normally carry a prison sentence?

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I was home alone last night so catching up on my bits of the Sky box I don't subject my better half to.

During one police motorway interceptor police camera cops episode there was the inevitable person who was totally ****faced, 3 or 4 times over the limit I think and the police officer was telling the camera that driving whilst over the limit was crazy dangerous etc etc and likely to cause an accident or death. He ended up with a paltry fine and a 12 month ban.

And then it occurred to me that if I was walking around with a knife for example even with little evidence I planned to use it I could very easily get a custodial sentence, you could for lots of life threatening things, similarly if you were just blindly firing a gun etc etc you'd end up in prison. Hell you can even end up in that position for affray or doing other stupid things whilst "in drink".

And then I got to thinking that driving when drunk, especially when hammered really is very likely to end in disaster and you're in a fast moving pile of metal easily capable of killing someone so why aren't you charged accordingly? When you consider the potential for death surely a custodial sentence rather than the inconvenience of license loss is more appropriate?

I've no particular axe to grind on this, I just thought it curious that something that society seems to unanimously agree is super dangerous is punished with a fine and a year or 2 not being able to drive, surely a trigger at say twice the limit where you're going inside for 6 months no questions would be more of a deterrent?
 
Locking people up for first offence drink driving doesn't achieve anything. You could argue the same with speeding, using a mobile phone or anything that increases your risk to others when driving. Just ban them from driving protects the rest of society.
 
As above really, whilst in principal I tend to agree that there should be a bigger deterrent, by taking away a license you effectively remove that persons ability to re-offend.

This is far more difficult when dealing with a knife/gun or even particularly violent individual.

There are clearly those who will drive drunk with or without a license, however a custodial sentence is no more likely to change that persons behaviour
 
Carrying a knife or gun has more of a clearly malicious intent. Drink driving is probably a more middle class crime, country house to the pub etc.

Middle class crime? madness.. although I sort of take your point about intent.

i dont think people who are absolutely legless would consider the consequence when they dont really know what they are doing!

Neither do angry people! They still get dealt with accordingly.

Locking people up for first offence drink driving doesn't achieve anything. You could argue the same with speeding, using a mobile phone or anything that increases your risk to others when driving. Just ban them from driving protects the rest of society.

Yeah I see that, I suppose a second conviction ought to be mandatory prison?
 
I mean to be fair I also think there's a world of difference between being a bit over which I'd class as careless or stupid and being absolutely shedded which I'd still argue is seriously criminal behaviour.
 
Bit of an odd one really, not sure jailing would be an effective measure, and banning them from driving doesnt always seem to work as they can just drive illegally, as some do.
 
Speaking as a one time only drunk driver (1980) I appreciate your point and it did also cost me my job. But once can be a mistake. Jail for a few weeks would be harsh for a first time offence and very expensive for the state. Probably a curfew (home detention) would be better although in today's open all hours licensing system may be not so effective.

For recidivists or combined with other factors like dangerous driving, it is probably suitable.
 
I have known a couple of people who were very responsible but had a minute of madness and drunk drove. They were not far over the limit but enough to lose their licence.

On the other hand their are people who serial drink and drive and go out knowing they are going to be over the limit and know they intend to drive home. Quite a few country pubs have people driving to them, probably regulars.

It is such a tough one but I think the circumstances should be taken into account and harsher sentences given to serial offenders.
 
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