Intel Gigabit NICs

jh30uk · 5 Mar 2014 at 23:54

That would make sense so I had the link speed but 1 socket would not handle it.

Why can a socket not nowadays handle more, the plug and cables are near same and fit each other.

What happens when we get Gigler ISP speeds with extra added for overheads like VM do so 1Gb/s get you at least 1Gb/s or a little higher.

Are Modems/Routers going to need 2 sockets to each PC and peeps with 1 NIC are not going to get full speed?

I just assumed as tech evolves the same looking socket will handle more like USB sockets have and current socket have from 10 to 100 to current 1000 speeds.

Intel have said about 2013-15 they will have 4Gb/s on-board NIC the same size as current ones instead of a add in cards that looks like a old GPU from 1990's, I am sure there is photos of them if you search.

bremen1874 · 5 Mar 2014 at 23:58

You use a 10Gbe connection, which has existed for a while but is still expensive enough to keep it out of most domestic networks.

bledd · 6 Mar 2014 at 00:00

You can get 10Gbps ethernet, but it costs a bomb currently. These support 10Gb on each port.

I've not seen a home UK connection advertised at over 1Gb..

This thread stems from my last one..

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18580595

Randomface74 · 6 Mar 2014 at 00:03

afaik 300MB is the highest
(BT Infinity Option 4)

Caged · 6 Mar 2014 at 00:04

10Gb over Cat6A is also limited to 55m.

Edit: That was Cat6, Cat6A will go the full distance. 10Gb ethernet ports are very expensive at the moment, it's predominantly found as SFP direct attach on top of rack switches which uplink over fibre.

jh30uk · 6 Mar 2014 at 00:05

As you may know Gigler ISP is 1Gb/s but as ADSL in real terms its lower due to overheads etc.

https://gigler.co.uk/ (Also think outside UK where speed have been 10x faster for years).

If they added to that to get it to 1Gb/s like VM do then we would be buggered on current 1Gb/s NICS due to overheads correct?

I know a 100Mb/s NIC is about 92-94Mb/s after overheads not sure how much is lost from a 1Gb/s though.

bremen1874 · 6 Mar 2014 at 00:05

That's Cat6 isn't it? I thought Cat6a was rated for full distance (or what was the point?).

Rainmaker · 6 Mar 2014 at 00:08

jh30uk said:
As you may know Gigler ISP is 1Gb/s but as ADSL in real terms its lower due to overheads etc.

https://gigler.co.uk/ (Also think outside UK where speed have been 10x faster for years).

If they added to that to get it to 1Gb/s like VM do then we would be buggered on current 1Gb/s NICS due to overheads correct?

I know a 100Mb/s NIC is about 92-94Mb/s after overheads not sure how much is lost from a 1Gb/s though.

I raised this on the other thread, and apparently the loss is only WAN > LAN due to NAT. The LAN > LAN would get full speeds and 1Gbps fibre like Hyperoptic has the option of plugging a device direct into the wall (no modem/router) for a pure 1Gbps connection.

For the guy who asked above, the main advantage of my 1000PT (dual port) is that I only need one card in my hardware router/firewall to get WAN in and serve LAN out at full speeds. You can get four port cards too.

bledd · 6 Mar 2014 at 00:10

billysielu said:
afaik 300MB is the highest
(BT Infinity Option 4)

Hyper Optic, London = 1Gb

Caged · 6 Mar 2014 at 00:11

bremen1874 said:
That's Cat6 isn't it? I thought Cat6a was rated for full distance (or what was the point?).

Yeah, I edited the post. Cat6A is all hideously expensive at the moment.

HEADRAT · 6 Mar 2014 at 06:34

Had Intel NICs in my PCs since 2008

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17916514&highlight=Intel+headrat

Kidge · 6 Mar 2014 at 14:24

Cool, just bought one to test in microserver!

PistolPete · 6 Mar 2014 at 21:40

jh30uk said:
With Intel on-board NIC's you do not need to plug in 2 cables to Team them, its done internally.

Can you show us either a screen shot of where you have this setup, or a link to somewhere explaining this setup? I've used Intel NICs, from PCI-X to PCI-e and onboard for years and I've never heard of this. I have a number of Intel NIC'd servers and PC's here and I can find no way to do this and I can't find it documented anywhere..... but it would save me loads of cabling as I currently 2 or 4 cables to my switches from each machine.

jh30uk · 6 Mar 2014 at 22:18

I think it has been pointed out above that even though I had 2Gb/s it would not have sent that over 1 Port/Cable as I thought.

mrk · 6 Mar 2014 at 23:04

Mine should arrive tomorrow but reading up on Intel's site this feature seems neat:

Advanced cable diagnostics

Dynamically tests and reports network problems (error rate, cable length) and automatically compensates for cable issues (cross-over cable, wrong pin-out/polarity)

Caged · 6 Mar 2014 at 23:19

It's like a less convenient Fluke

A lot cheaper though.

bledd · 7 Mar 2014 at 06:39

Well that escalated quickly.

Now I have..

Quad port Intel in my file server
Single port Intel in my gaming pc
Single port Intel in my media centre

Eyeing up 24 port managed gigabit switches

MarcLister · 7 Mar 2014 at 17:24

Checked my PC and my server today. Both have PCI-E slots. My PC has two, one of which has a USB 3.0 card, the other is blocked by the cooler on my graphics card. As USB 3.0 cards seem to be PCI-E only, I can't move it down to the PCI slot below. Suppose this means I'm going ahead with a new PC build in the summer as I've been umming and aahing about for months now. My new motherboard will have USB 3.0 sockets natively so no need for a specific card, which means even if one of the PCI-E slots is blocked by a graphics card, the other now is free.

bledd. said:
Well that escalated quickly.

Now I have..

Quad port Intel in my file server
Single port Intel in my gaming pc
Single port Intel in my media centre

Eyeing up 24 port managed gigabit switches

Quad port in your file server so that each PC you connect has its own 1GB link that doesn't have to be shared with another PC?

bledd · 8 Mar 2014 at 12:22

You can team multiple connections together like a group, so it appears as one 4Gb connection.

Need a smart/managed switch in order to do this.

Think of it like raid 0,but for your network.

MarcLister · 9 Mar 2014 at 12:53

So starting to re-check my PC spec for a Summer build. I've been thinking of getting the Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H, which has an Intel Gigabit LAN port. Should I still get a dedicated Intel NIC or is the onboard LAN going to be OK as it's Intel? Does the fact that it's an onboard card taking resources away mean that a dedicated card is always better?

bledd. said:
You can team multiple connections together like a group, so it appears as one 4Gb connection.

Need a smart/managed switch in order to do this.

Think of it like raid 0,but for your network.

Nice.