***The Official Battlefield 4 Thread***

I got MVP almost every round in Air Superiority with the Jets but find they are not all that useful on the normal game modes.
A decent player who isn't just sitting around not moving in a vehicle isn't really at risk fro mthe air.

I've only had 2-3 deaths at most from jets in 180 hours of playing when it was under my own control. IE, not a passenger in some fools tank who just sits there in the open.

My fave thing in BF games has always been shooting choppers and jets with my tank though. Get a chopper or two almost every time i'm in a tank as most pilots don't know how to fly fast enough so lining up the shot as they fly past is pretty easy.

Mind you, 4 of my mates jumped in a chopper on CTF last week as we spawned and I jump in a tank. For a laugh, I shot their chopper as it got halfway across the map....It was normal mode so dind't hurt them but it put it into a complete nosedive and they crashed and burned into a building. haha. Ooops...
 
Xbox One Game Update rolling out today. Same killcam breaking update that PS4 has got:

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/forum/threadview/2955065226393860044/

Mar 10 Xbox One Game Update Notes
-Several crash fixes and stability improvements
-Fixed an issue with data re-sending that was causing rubberbanding on some servers
-Increased the maxium rank to 120
-Fixed an issue with the kill camera triggering before game client would display the last portion of damage being dealt, giving players the impression that they died too early
-Fixed issue with blood effects, damage indicators, and health bar updates in the HUD being out of sync. This issue meant that players would sometimes miss information about being shot at, or get the impression of too few hits occurring for the amount of bullets that hit.
-Tweaked the speed, dispersion, and re-arm duration of the IFV and MBT projectiles
-Tweaked timing for how long the killfeed stays on screen
-Fixed an issue where the message "Joining Server" sometimes didn't appear when the user tried to join the server
-Added default player slots to server browser filters
-Fix for an issue on Silk Road where players could deform the terrain to create a big, water-filled hole
-Fix for a bug that occurred with the end-of-round camera if the player was in the bomber in China Rising
-Fix for an issue on Rogue Transmission where it was impossible to capture a flag while riding the quad bike
-Prevented players from interacting with an M-Com on Siege of Shanghai after it had been destroyed
-Fixed an issue where audio for disarming M-Coms could get stuck in an infinite loop
-Added minimap details for missing carriers in Rush on Paracel Storm and Hainan Resort
-Fix for an exploit that would allow players to shoot two tank shells with not enough delay between shots
-Removed a bug where squads would get split up when transitioning between Conquest and Air Superiority
-Fixed an issue where Defuse could get stuck in an unplayable state between rounds
-Removed a bug that would cause players to sometimes get stuck in the killcam after having been killed
-Fixed an issue with revive icon not being greyed out in-game on map and minimap, when the player died after getting revived in Defuse
-General improvements and bug fixes for the Battledash and Mission create screens
-Fixed a bug where red laser dots would get stuck on textures
-Zoom dispersion fix. When zooming in while firing the dispersion did not lower to the new max value
-Fixed a bug where the enemy health always displayed as full in the kill-cam
-Fixed an issue in Defuse so killed bomb carrier can’t plant a bomb in the next round without picking up a new bomb
-The MAV has been updated to prevent players from exploiting it
-Improved repair rates for vehicles with different base healths
-Tweaked volume balance and other ambience parameters on the majority of base game and China Rising maps
-Improved the track vehicles wheel friction so vehicles don’t get stuck at relatively minor hills
-Fixed an issue with faulty zoom levels that occurred when using click to zoom in. While sprinting and zooming, will mess up the zoom levels, from hip to zoom.
-Improved boat physics and handling, including implementation of a system that lets players push stuck boats back in the water

SPECTATOR MODE
-Added a chat feature, allowing spectators to take part of the chat of the match they’re spectating
-Fix for the EMP/Proxy Attack effects being visible in Spectator Mode
-Removed the black screen that was visible when switching between cameras and players in Spectator Mode
-Removed squad colors in Spectator Mode, now only the red and blue team colors are visible
-Decreased the user interface clutter in Spectator Mode by removing health pack, ammo pack and revive icons
-Tweaked the 1st person view in Spectator Mode so that spectators now see exactly what players see and nothing else
-Added a functionality in Spectator Mode so that, when going into Freecam from 1st or 3rd person mode, the first static freecam will be moved to behind the previously spectated player
-Added the possibility in Spectator Mode to ‘fire’ at a player from Freecam to go into 1st person view of that player
-Spectators can now see which player on the scoreboard that carries the bomb in the Obliteration and Defuse game modes

NOTE: For in-depth details on all the balancing tweaks below, head to our "Balancing BF4" articles .

GRENADE TWEAKS
-Increased the number of M84 FLASHBANG and HAND FLARES the player can carry from 2 to 3.
-Increased the effect of M84 FLASHBANG grenades on friendly and enemy players.
-Increased the maximum damage for the RGO from 67 to 80, however reduced the range of explosion.
-Reduced the visual and audio effect for the detonation of the V40 Mini to highlight its smaller blast when compared to other grenades. Decreased the maximum damage from 80 to 60, and decreased the range at which maximum damage is applied.

PISTOL TWEAKS
-Increased the aimed accuracy of the M1911 to make it a viable choice once the COMPACT 45 has been unlocked.
-Increased the close range damage of the M1911, QSZ-92, FN57, CZ-75 and COMPACT 45.
-Reduced the delay between pressing the trigger and the bullet firing for the M412 REX and .44 MAGNUM.
-Increased the magazine capacity of the QSZ-92 to 20 rounds. Additionally reduced the recoil of the QSZ-92 to give it a clear difference from the FN57.
-Corrected a small error with the COMPACT 45 accuracy when crouched or prone.

WEAPON TWEAKS
-Increased the accuracy of pump action shotguns (870 MCS, HAWK 12g, SPAS-12, and UTS 15) while on the move and aiming.
-Reduced the long range damage of the MTAR to bring it in line with the rest of the Carbines.
-Adjusted the way inaccuracy is handled when transitioning from Hip fire to Aimed fire.
-The Heavy Barrel’s Accuracy bonus now also applies on the move, at a reduced bonus. This should give the Heavy Barrel a wider role for players who desire accuracy while aimed in all situations.
-Synchronized the timing of the aim down the sights animation of sniper rifles with their ability to fire with full accuracy. Players no longer need to wait for additional time after the aiming animation plays to get accurate shots. There is still a delay to achieve full accuracy, so Quick Scoping is still not possible.
-The SRS bolt action time has been tweaked and the rate of fire has been lowered
-The GOL bolt action time has been tweaked
-The muzzle velocity for the MP7 has been reduced
-The MTAR21 muzzle velocity has been reduced
-Updated the handling of the 1x scopes for Type95B1, A91, SteyrAug, SAR21, QBZ951, FAMAS, UTAS, MTAR, L85A2, and F2000
-Updated rate of fire for the RGP7 and NLAW

VEHICLE TWEAKS
-Reduced the total amount of missiles carried by the Mobile Anti-Aircraft vehicles from 6 to 4.
-Reduced the velocity of the MAA’s default 20MM CANNON from 1200m/s to 800m/s to match the 30MM CANNON.
-Reduced the physical impact of all Anti-Aircraft missiles to prevent helicopters from flipping uncontrollably when hit. The damage values have not been changed.
-Reduced the cone in which ACTIVE RADAR missiles search for targets, making them require a higher level of skill in predicting where a target will be when the missile is fired.
-Increased the direct damage done by the Attack Helicopter’s gunner cannon. The gunner will be better able to assist the pilot in taking down vehicle targets with this change.
-Increased the direct hit damage of the Zuni Rockets for Attack Helicopters. The rate of fire of these rockets combined with their smaller magazine pool made them a poor choice over the other two rocket types.
-Reduced the splash damage and maximum splash damage range of the Scout Helicopter 25MM CANNONS.
-Reduced the “intelligence” of the MBT LAW missiles, requiring the player to aim the missile closer to their target before the smart projectile will activate. Additionally, the MBT LAW now reloads slightly slower. Finally, a bug where the MBT LAW would pass through an ACTIVE PROTECTION shield has been fixed.
-Fixed an issue where ACTIVE PROTECTION and the MP-APS did not properly stop 12G FRAG rounds.
-Reduced the range where the M2 SLAM will do maximum damage to vehicles from 6M to 3M. The range was deemed to be too large, making the M2 SLAM far superior to the M15 AT MINE.
-Reduced the damage the STAFF shell does to all targets by 25%. This should balance the ease of use of the STAFF shell with its damage potential.
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blitzwing85 said:
I got MVP almost every round in Air Superiority with the Jets but find they are not all that useful on the normal game modes.
A decent player who isn't just sitting around not moving in a vehicle isn't really at risk fro mthe air.

I've only had 2-3 deaths at most from jets in 180 hours of playing when it was under my own control. IE, not a passenger in some fools tank who just sits there in the open.

My fave thing in BF games has always been shooting choppers and jets with my tank though. Get a chopper or two almost every time i'm in a tank as most pilots don't know how to fly fast enough so lining up the shot as they fly past is pretty easy.

Mind you, 4 of my mates jumped in a chopper on CTF last week as we spawned and I jump in a tank. For a laugh, I shot their chopper as it got halfway across the map....It was normal mode so dind't hurt them but it put it into a complete nosedive and they crashed and burned into a building. haha. Ooops...
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such a shame you're on PS4. Would love to fly with you for a bit and learn something. Flying jets is the only part of battlefield that I'm absolutely useless at.

I'm not the best infantry player, but I do alright, likewise with flying choppers and driving tanks. I'm a jack of all trades - master of none. Except jets :(
 
many 360 players here? Wouldn't mind playing with non tards in rush or something (hate floods of vehicles)
 
Some people are lethal with jets, I was in one yesterday and got taken out by guns from another plane before I even knew where he was.
 
Fr0dders said:
such a shame you're on PS4. Would love to fly with you for a bit and learn something. Flying jets is the only part of battlefield that I'm absolutely useless at.

I'm not the best infantry player, but I do alright, likewise with flying choppers and driving tanks. I'm a jack of all trades - master of none. Except jets :(
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To be honest when I was playing Air Superiotity it had just came out so maybe I was doing so well because it was a bunch of people trying it for the first time!!

But honestly there isn't much you can do if you're outnumbered. I just tried to pick off lone planes. The key for me, was to get behind them, and fire off a quick AR missle. Once this hit, your average player will just start to do a loop upwards. This makes them an easy kill. (so advice...never do this to escape!).
Bascially, as the attacker you simply hit the brakes hard, and do the SAME loop they do. This brings your target reticule right onto the top of them. Shoot them here and it kills them almost instantly. It does a lot more damage than shooting from the rear


Now, I'm no good at all at killing ground units with a jet - just other jets.

I'm certainly not one of those 25-0 jet pilots in a CQ game. haha.




Mate of mine had a hilarious jet moment recently where he was flying along in Rogue Transmission, and he flew inbetween the dish cables or whatever they are. The plane just wedge between them and he couldn't even get out!!!
Shame he didn't get a screen shot of it to post.
We tried pushing him out with a chopper, to the probable dismay of randoms who spawned in it! Think he had to suicide to escape.
 
Yup

killcams are broken in this release, animations on some of the new weapons are bugged, the AC130 is bugged and can't kill people.

The patch is needed to get naval strike compatibility so has to go out. Even when they know bugs are in it.
 
cu3ed said:
lol, what?....more new broken parts after the update!?
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wouldn't expect anything less with EA involved.

if you could pick one company to go into liquidation it would be them. funny thing is though they are raking it in and will most likely outlast every other games company on the planet.

they simply buy out the competition then turn them into a mess churning out poorer sequels of epic originals.
 
They've told the shareholders that battlefield is fine.

There's been no lasting damage done to the game and everybody is still playing the game. For as long as we do this from EA's point of view its just unfortunate.
 
Fr0dders said:
Yup

killcams are broken in this release, animations on some of the new weapons are bugged, the AC130 is bugged and can't kill people.

The patch is needed to get naval strike compatibility so has to go out. Even when they know bugs are in it.
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AC130 killed me a few times just fine, doesnt kill when im in it though.
 
Fr0dders said:
They've told the shareholders that battlefield is fine.

There's been no lasting damage done to the game and everybody is still playing the game. For as long as we do this from EA's point of view its just unfortunate.
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not much you can do when you have shelled out nearly £100 for it (after you include premium, etc).

obviously i'm going to play it bugs or not after that kind of investment.

overall the game is really good, if they could get their act together and actually fix the issues it would be perfect.
 
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