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Then correct me, show me a game where it's added so much more to a game? I'm totally open to being converted.
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Then correct me, show me a game where it's added so much more to a game? I'm totally open to being converted.
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You're assuming if Nintendo made a very powerful console it would sell well, how much did the Gamecube sell again?
Despite it being one of my favourite Nintendo consoles the fact it looked like a purple lunchbox and again Nintendo went for media that had less storage than the competition didn't help the GameCube.
Other than the Wii which is looking like a fluke, Nintendo consoles have sold worse and worse each gen.
As for going on about how much money Nintendo are sitting on, it's kind of pointless if they don't actually use it for anything worthwhile e.g buying third party games etc.
Blackberry were also sitting on a ton of cash with little debts etc and they still found themselves irrelevant due to not changing fast enough with the competition, a problem Nintendo suffer from, they still don't have parity with Sony's/Microsoft's network/account system, systems that were introduced 7 years ago with the PS3/360.
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I still don't think you can compare on-paper PC specs against console specs. If you built a PC as close to an Xbox 360 as you could get it, the xbox 360 would be much better at playing modern games. If you compare 360/PS3 specs to XB1/PS4, there's a huge difference so games in the next 2-3 years should look amazing.
As for Nintendo, I think a big part of their problem was essentially skipping the last gen by going in a different (but successful) direction with the wii. Now they want to a be a bit more serious but I imagine to most 14-20 year olds, Mario and Zelda don't mean a huge deal, not enough to buy a console for. Even a 20 year old would have been 12 when the Wii was released, so for any games before the Wii, even younger.
As for Nintendo, I think a big part of their problem was essentially skipping the last gen by going in a different (but successful) direction with the wii. Now they want to a be a bit more serious but I imagine to most 14-20 year olds, Mario and Zelda don't mean a huge deal, not enough to buy a console for. Even a 20 year old would have been 12 when the Wii was released, so for any games before the Wii, even younger.
Virtually every single game is enhanced through off tv play for a start.
Menu/item handling is a dream on it - gyroscope and touch screen functionality is all over the WiI U library.
Irrelevant.
It's believed to be higher than that actually. It is behind PS4, but it's not 2m units behind. Even if it were, that's 10m units of new console in 14 weeks and let us not forget, Xbox One only launched in a handful of countries and PS4 only just released in Japan within the last fortnight.
Wrong. They're selling very well. The PS4 was the fastest selling console in UK history (prior to that it was the PSP) and these new machines came a week apart (which wasn't the case in 2005-2007) and it came at the end of an 8 year cycle (the longest in console history), so why would January sales figures be the be all and end all to discuss whether they are or aren't (they are) selling well?
Their biggest mistake was making 'Wii' the brand, not 'Nintendo', this has been coming for a long time.
- Nintendo Entertainment System
- Super Nintendo
- Nintendo 64
- Nintendo GameCube
- Nintendo Wii (over time they began to depend more on 'Wii' than 'Nintendo', eventually just becoming Wii.
- Wii U
Add to that there's not a clear separation between systems, 'U' sounds like an add-on, not a whole new machine (which is what I assume you were getting at.) On top of that the advertising for the system was a disgrace. To this day people still believe the controller is the add-on and the Wii U machine is just a console design revision for the original Nintendo Wii, which isn't surprising and those who knew it was an original console thought the controller was the system after the unveiling because Nintendo were so off beat. It's a shame because it's a cracking machine and has some good games, but it came out and didn't really offer anything the other machines couldn't do or didn't already do better, coupled with the lack of media playback, no blu-ray and a lack of genuine network quality. They even revealed recently in an interview that their design team didn't look at how Microsoft and Sony had set up their online systems first (which would have been a very smart first move...)
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Wii would have been fine if they had used it properly, Super Wii, or Wii HD would have been fine, calling it the Wii U and not actually showing the console off during the reveal and then they wonder why people think it's just an accessory for the old Wii?
Disagree - they used Wii to take a piggyback on the Wii brand - backfired big time.
Should have drawn a line in the sand and moved on and with a totally new name so there'd be no misunderstandings of it being an accessory or add-on.
Should have drawn a line in the sand and moved on and with a totally new name so there'd be no misunderstandings of it being an accessory or add-on.
Exactly.
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Sony have no issue just incrementing a number and using the Playstation brand, nobody has ever confused the PS4 for anything else other than a next gen console, it wasn't really the branding that was the issue, it was how the console was revealed and talked about.
The PS4 will rake it in for sony, nintendo i have never and never will buy anything from them, stupid icons like mario are just so boring to me, the guy who posted is just one the GPU nerds from the other threads and only cares about benchmarks lol.
Playstation buyers and Wii buyers two completely different sets of customer.
Wii owners needed to be communicated to in an idiot proof way - "you liked the Wii - you'll like this better".
What, like the following games:
Crash Team Racing
Diddy Kong Racing
Sonic All Star Racing
Southpark Rally
Disney Magical Racing Tour
Little Big Planet Karting
Many have tried, and I've only listed the hugely popular franchises out of the long list, but only Nintendo themselves have come close with DKR.
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Nintendo first party titles have a certain patina that few can copy or even emulate with only the odd miss.