How about the Bull Mastiffs that have mauled women and children to death? Plenty of articles around.
Our Bullmastiff caught a burglar last night
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How about the Bull Mastiffs that have mauled women and children to death? Plenty of articles around.
Don't be daft. I like dogs. I keep bull terriers. But if I had a knife in my hand and I was attacked by a dog, I would put more holes in it than swiss cheese. Even my own if it turned on me or my girlfriend.
It was my fiancee, who is definitely not my mum.
The back garden already has lighting, but that didn't seem to deter Sammy Smackhead. Luckily the dog... did.
oh right i thought i you said it happened at your mums house,i dont mean just garden lighting,i mean motion detection lighting
How about the Pekingese that chewed the baby's face off? Or the Jack Russell who killed two kids? How about the chicken sandwich that caused enteritis and the patient miscarried twin babies?... I'm not sure how any of them are relevant. Just because an animal can 'go bad' or do bad things, it doesn't automagically mean that every animal is the same, or that it was wrong for our dog to attack and attempt to detain said intruder. Nor does it mean that 99.9% of dogs aren't sane, rational and capable of acting appropriately depending on the circumstances they find themselves in.
Indeed.
I've walked 3 dogs in my time (boxers) and know exactly what and how dogs behave. It's all nurturing from owners that makes a dogs temperament. I know that if my Boxer had seen someone in the garden, she probably would have just stopped and stared at him (possible with side tail swishes whilst she worked out who / what this person was). She certainly wouldn't have barged out the door in pursuit mode
A burglar on your property has absolutely no certainty about how the law will behave in matters of self defence. Tony Martin has taught us all that lesson......as Bledd pointed out, if the dog had killed him, this would have gone very differently for you and the dog.
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Or the alaskan malamute that recently killed that baby.
I've never understood people buying sled dogs, keeping them in tiny houses and barely exercising them and then being surprised when the animal flips it's ****.
But then he did shoot a kid in the back... with an illegally held shotgun. For **** sake.
I've walked 3 dogs in my time (boxers) and know exactly what and how dogs behave. It's all nurturing from owners that makes a dogs temperament. I know that if my Boxer had seen someone in the garden, she probably would have just stopped and stared at him (possible with side tail swishes whilst she worked out who / what this person was). She certainly wouldn't have barged out the door in pursuit mode
A burglar on your property has absolutely no certainty about how the law will behave in matters of self defence. Tony Martin has taught us all that lesson......
I literally have no more time to debate silliness. I have to go to the school and pick up the little one. Walking three boxers doesn't equate to real experience, especially in matters of training and dog 'psychology'. Tony Martin shot a young burglar in the back while he was trying to escape, and he is a human being. The law is, shockingly(!), quite different when it comes to a house dog chewing up a prowler actively breaking into private property.
To be fair, a dog giving a burglar a good going over is a bit different to shooting a fleeing burglar in the back.
I don't think it's wrong as such, I just wouldn't trust a dogs judgement as no-one can REALLY understand an animal, I'd be happier with a trained guard dog that'd try and detain on command rather than use it's own, possibly incorrect judgement.
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You've just dismissed 99.9% of the pet dog population. Although as I said I have a lot of experience in the security/protection/police dog arena, most dogs are pets and are wont to rely on their instincts when protecting what's "theirs". That includes their owners and property. Actually legally speaking you're much better off with a pet acting on 'instinct' than a 'trained savage attack dog'(!) in such circumstances.
In which case, it's you who has little or no dog experience, or you would have understood what the term "walked" meant in relation to dog ownership.
The law is no different to pets, if your dog had killed him. You had absolutely no proof or evidence to suggest he was a burglar or even a threat. He hadn't stolen anything, or had possessions on him. Yes, the assumption was there, but the evidence wasn't. Hell, I've climbed over peoples fences before, admittedly when drunk, doesn't make me a burglar or person with intent.
That's the thing, a trained guard dog is not the same as a "trained savage attack dog", there was a member on here who had a trained German Shepherd (somebody might remember who it was, I can't for the life of me) which was world away from your dog in terms of demeanour. It was certainly a dog I'd be happy to have roaming my property.
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I've walked 3 dogs in my time (boxers) and know exactly what and how dogs behave. It's all nurturing from owners that makes a dogs temperament. I know that if my Boxer had seen someone in the garden, she probably would have just stopped and stared at him (possible with side tail swishes whilst she worked out who / what this person was). She certainly wouldn't have barged out the door in pursuit mode
Different breeds have different characteristics though, so comparisons to other dog breeds is flawed. A Bullmastiff is a protection dog, bred for guarding property. A boxer is a hunting dog, not a protection dog. So these two different approaches are exactly what I'd expect to see.
Claiming that this has anything to do with training is just asinine.
I had a boxer leap a fence and come at my last bull terrier. I had to stick my boot in the boxer while pulling my dog out of the way incase my dog got a hold of it. Because my dog being a bull terrier, despite being on a lead and under control, would have been the one demonised when he took lumps out of the boxer.
Cannot compare a Boxer to a Bullmastif. Boxers are daft old things, best family pet you could have in my opinion as they just love kids and being involved.
Definitely in no way a guard dog. Alert you, yes, protect you, no. My old boxer would have just drooled on the burglar whilst trying her best to look scary (just looked cute really).
A Bullmastif though, is a guard dog and will protect its walker/family. Big bloody scary things.
EDIT: always late to the party
Definitely in no way a guard dog. Alert you, yes, protect you, no. My old boxer would have just drooled on the burglar whilst trying her best to look scary (just looked cute really).
A Bullmastif though, is a guard dog and will protect its walker/family. Big bloody scary things.
EDIT: always late to the party
