This comes from someone who has no children and has NO idea.
What you should have said was
"In MY OPINION there maybe plenty of ways of doing it and I hope to find this out one day"
Homeschooling - Thoughts as a parent or child with experience?
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This comes from someone who has no children and has NO idea.
What you should have said was
"In MY OPINION there maybe plenty of ways of doing it and I hope to find this out one day"
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This comes from someone who has no children and has NO idea.
What you should have said was
"In MY OPINION there maybe plenty of ways of doing it and I hope to find this out one day"
Having children does not make you automatically qualified to talk about anything to do with children and vice versa, debate the points I am making.
Anyway, stop the trolling, I'm in no mood to put up with it.
Unless you want to force a religion/doctrine down your child's throat, homeschooling is a bad idea.
Homeschooling should not even be legal in my opinion. It should be a basic human right to allow a child contact with as many beliefs/opinions as possible.
Homeschooling should not even be legal in my opinion. It should be a basic human right to allow a child contact with as many beliefs/opinions as possible.
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Sending your little one to a club (which you have, of course, chosen) is not the same as a child being in an educational and social environment. From what I've seen of the home school argument it boils down to "Timmy deserves better so I'll try and do that for him".
Now I'm not going to argue against the principle of said statement. I get it - we all want the best for our children. But to think that you can provide it yourself where there are arguably few upsides and demonstrably many downsides? No, I'm not buying that.
[FnG]magnolia;25997026 said:
Children need to be brought out of the home enviroment to develop more. Molly-coddling them does not help their development and gives them a skewed perspective of how the world, and the people within it, operate. It can also toughen them up to a myriad of inevitable social challenges that they'll never meet at home.
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[FnG]magnolia;25997026 said:
How would you say it was different? If they go to say 3 different clubs during the week and socialise with their peers as well as working together (scouts/cadets would be a good example of team working etc) what are they missing? Frequency? What if they're homeschooled in a small group say 4-8 children?
You also need to look at the advantages. Take my friend who is just about to become a Dr in Computer Science, do you think she could teach computing better than the vast majority of state or even private teacher? I think she could. You have the opportunity to tailor your lessons to make sure that the children make the most of all the time.
It's unlikely I'd homeschool alone, but as part of a cooperative with some other parents who I know are highly qualified, I would consider it, or like I mentioned above, part-time schooling.
I have no experience either way, but this point about different types of authority is likely key. Your child should be exposed to differing levels of authority from various different aspects of society. Having an almost constant authority throughout their childhood could be severely limiting.
All I'll say is that whilst working as an intensive connexions adviser, educated at home teens had a team of specialists just to focus on them as the vast majority were demotivated and struggling socially and found it very hard to get decent grades and progress onto work, further education or other training.
School isn't perfect, but it's better than what I've seen the alternative produce (in the vast majority of cases).
School isn't perfect, but it's better than what I've seen the alternative produce (in the vast majority of cases).
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"Hey guys id like you to meet my son Heathcliff Jr!"
"Why is he mutilating those ducklings and feeding the innards to the other ducks?"
"Oh he's just expressing himself, Heathcliff was homeschooled you see as I considered the school system to be a political box ticking institution with the education of the children coming in second. Because I homeschooled Heathcliff he was never exposed to the toxic system that "they" want to engrain in our children's minds. I wanted Heathcliff to be strong and independant and free to form his own decisions, this is the result."
"I see, but why is he so pale and struggling to stand up without almost falling over?
"Ah that would probably be down to his rigourous vegan diet, we're still tweaking his beancurd intake until we can get the right balance. Also he doesnt get much sunlight as he doesnt waste time socialising with the children from those poisonous schools, as they think he is wierd. Can you believe that?!"
"Yes. Yes I can. I will be leaving now and never returning."
Source - I was Heathcliff Jr
"Why is he mutilating those ducklings and feeding the innards to the other ducks?"
"Oh he's just expressing himself, Heathcliff was homeschooled you see as I considered the school system to be a political box ticking institution with the education of the children coming in second. Because I homeschooled Heathcliff he was never exposed to the toxic system that "they" want to engrain in our children's minds. I wanted Heathcliff to be strong and independant and free to form his own decisions, this is the result."
"I see, but why is he so pale and struggling to stand up without almost falling over?
"Ah that would probably be down to his rigourous vegan diet, we're still tweaking his beancurd intake until we can get the right balance. Also he doesnt get much sunlight as he doesnt waste time socialising with the children from those poisonous schools, as they think he is wierd. Can you believe that?!"
"Yes. Yes I can. I will be leaving now and never returning."
Source - I was Heathcliff Jr
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I'm not trolling sunshine(you always say that). It's you who has a problem which is "my way or the byway"
Oh and the point I made is the truth not made up. Are you saying we can't speak the truth here now?
So it's ok for you to say to a member "RUBBISH" but it's not ok to do the same back to you?
I will just answer "RUBBISH" from now the same as you do
At the OP listen to parents that have had children. We KNOW how they ended up.
This is amazing.
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Never met a normal home schooled kid.
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They are mixing with what they know and that's a very small, like-minded group of kids, themselves in the place they are because of parental choice to NOT do what every other kid in developed countries do. School provides a mix of people, of abilities, of backgrounds, of cultures, of colour, of fun, of interaction, that you can't replicate.
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This is a non argument so I won't respond to it.
Considering options is a huge part of being the parent to a child and I would defend your right to tell me I'm wrong as much as I'd defend my right to tell you that I'd have a really good think about what's important to your (future) kids.
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I've never met one,
But I know boarding schooled people, and it has similar issues as people are educated and live in the same place, so there's no separation, and without the separation they could never really relax and have the 'home time' that you get when you leave school.
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Just send them to a free school, or lock them in the basement. Who needs a trained educator?
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This is a good point really, I've no PhD but degrees in maths and computing,
I used to tutor autistic children in maths, very low level stuff and did very well at it.
But I've had people ask me to help higher leveled student, but I struggle. I have no teaching qualifications but when it gets to the more complicated maths I take my grasp of the easier stuff as a given and its frustrating when they can't do what I would consider trivial.
Slightly off topic I know, But just giving my experience, that knowing a subject doesn't make you a good teacher, and teaching one thing isn't like teaching another.
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Going to clubs was far different to socialising at school (Having done the whole clubs thing after school as my Mam was working round the clock to bring up two children single handedly)
I did some research a while back on collective learning, collectively owned schooling systems (either by groups of parents either use different homes - or say, rent a building) provide the children with a high standard of education which doesn't fit the standard educational model.
From what I recall the students performed significantly better than the average, but obviously this is to be expected to some extend due to simply having parents more invested in their children's education.
The potential benefits are huge, just obviously problems may arise if parents unfit for the task decide to do it.
But it's worth noting that there are many midway steps between full on home schooling & standard UK schooling (which negate the usual criticisms, as socialisation is part of it).
The key advantage of home school/collective learning is that each child learns differently, some do better individually - others in groups - practical VS theoretical, artistic vs logical - different levels of intuition, some people take twice as long to term maths as they do English which in a standard educational model is a huge waste of time splitting it 50/50.
To use the analogy of clothes, our standard system is 'off the rack', where as the alternatives are usually better tailored for the individual - while many can do very well in a conformed system it's suited to a certain type of child, resulting in many people failing who really could have done much better.
From what I recall the students performed significantly better than the average, but obviously this is to be expected to some extend due to simply having parents more invested in their children's education.
The potential benefits are huge, just obviously problems may arise if parents unfit for the task decide to do it.
But it's worth noting that there are many midway steps between full on home schooling & standard UK schooling (which negate the usual criticisms, as socialisation is part of it).
The key advantage of home school/collective learning is that each child learns differently, some do better individually - others in groups - practical VS theoretical, artistic vs logical - different levels of intuition, some people take twice as long to term maths as they do English which in a standard educational model is a huge waste of time splitting it 50/50.
To use the analogy of clothes, our standard system is 'off the rack', where as the alternatives are usually better tailored for the individual - while many can do very well in a conformed system it's suited to a certain type of child, resulting in many people failing who really could have done much better.
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