Homeschooling - Thoughts as a parent or child with experience?

You seem to rope all state schools in as being like this, which is not true.

But they are in the majority, sadly.

I agree you shouldn't tar with the same brush, but if the shoe fits?

As i said previously, my wife's work took her to schools all across the UK, on average the class size is 1 teacher and 1 helper to 30+ pupils, the teachers are generally PGCE cross educated from a 2:2 they got at Uni and they needed a job.

The helpers are mostly parents of children in that class, who don't have the courage or support at home to go alternative, but want to see their children growing up.

The children are sat down at tables, in their uniforms (A suit could be classified as a uniform, which is what you wear for secondary school is it not?), for up to an hour at a time (Who's children can sit still for an hour being lectured too??) about 1 subject, they are allowed their breaks (Which again match the working day, 8 hour working shift pattern by law is allowed 2x 15min breaks and a half hour break) of which is heavily supervised to stop bullying and "dangerous play", then they return and the process goes around again.

But this hasn't been my experience across the board in all subjects. Just a few narrow minded teachers.

I'm not saying all teachers are bad, but they are very few and far between.
 
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I believe that would be commonly referred to as going 'full retard'.

Why?

Because they teach you the Fire pixie?

Yet its ok to teach children that a small women with wings steal your teeth from under your pillow and leave you money?

Or that a bunny goes around and leaves you chocolate eggs?

Seriously?
 
If I could afford for my wife to stop working and home school my son, I would jump at the change.

Example:
My wife's colleagues daughter of 8 years old was molested on the way home from school. Her and her mate were walking home and behind her, 2 male pupils from the same school maybe 1-2 years older than her and her friend, were not far behind them shouting sexual remarks.

As anyone would, she turned around and flicked them the bird. Next thing you know, he's got her arm around her next and given her the finger. (excuse description)

WHY would you want people like this to socialise with your children? Parents (not all) are too lazy to get involved with how their kids days at school have been. Situations like this are fuelled by easy access to Pornography and the lack of responsibility by parents to monitor their web traffic and access to internet accessible devices,

*Rant Over*

There is guarantee your child will fit in and it's parental instinct to protect your children from the "what if's". I would agree, homeschooling is a great alternative. You are still bound to the curriculum and monitored on progress.
 
This is exactly what i mean.

"get a half decent job"
"less about actually learning anything of worth for modern times."
"Home schooling is passable providing the child sits exams according to Edexcel, OCR etc..."

See, for me, if my child ends up with Empathy, Creative, Imagination and a passion for learning, i don't care what they do. Because i know they will do what they want to do with the correct tools to do it.

So you want them to become an 'artist'?

I don't understand why you think they cant gain empathy etc from schools? Especially since Ofsted exist and their reports are public knowledge, allowing you to avoid the dire schools.

Why?

Because they teach you the Fire pixie?
Yet its ok to teach children that a small women with wings steal your teeth from under your pillow and leave you money?
Or that a bunny goes around and leaves you chocolate eggs?
Seriously?
I think its the fact that they teach you nothing of real term worth was his point.
 
I agree you shouldn't tar with the same brush, but if the shoe fits?

As i said previously, my wife's work takes her to schools all across the UK, on average the class size is 1 teacher and 1 helper to 30+ pupils, the teachers are generally PGCE cross educated from a 2:2 they got at Uni and they needed a job.

The helpers are mostly parents of children in that class, who don't have the courage or support at home to go alternative, but want to see their children growing up.

The children are sat down at tables, in their uniforms, for up to an hour at a time (Who's children can sit still for an hour being lectured too??) about 1 subject, they are allowed their breaks (Which again match the working day, 8 hour working shift pattern by law is allowed 2x 15min breaks and a half hour break) of which is heavily supervised to stop bullying and "dangerous play", then they return and the process goes around again.



I'm not saying all teachers are bad, but they are very few and far between.

I suppose I've not had the same experiences, but not denying they exist.
I do think there are many problems with understaffing and flexibility in course structure, And it should change.
But being honest, I can't afford to homeschool or private school, And have had no issues with my ability to supplement the downfalls of state schools, and think many hide behind the downfalls of schools in the shame of how little time they spend actively participating in their childs education
 
So you want them to become an 'artist'?

Again stop thinking horizontal, not everything has to lead to a job.

What if my Son becomes a Doctor, from his own choice. Then through his passion of self learning, learns another language and opens up a hospital for free to help others?

Is that a wrong path to take?

I don't understand why you think they cant gain empathy etc from schools? Especially since Ofsted exist and their reports are public knowledge, allowing you to avoid the dire schools.

Do you know what Empathy is?

So Ofsted, who visit roughly yearly to schools, go in for a afternoon? and decided based on set criteria if your child's school is good or bad? And that is meant to be a good judge?

As I've already explained I've visited nurseries who have got their Ofsted dates to the month and during that month they do things different to get better reports.
 
I have less issue with the fire pixie, more with the belief that the 'white' human is a more advanced stage of ethic evolution - non-white people are inferior in many ways, according to Rudi. Also, things like this:

“But the people that didn’t develop their id, that was too exposed to the influence of the sun, they were like plants: They produced far too much carbon under their skin – and became black. That is why the negroes are black.”
 
But being honest, I can't afford to homeschool or private school, And have had no issues with my ability to supplement the downfalls of state schools, and think many hide behind the downfalls of schools in the shame of how little time they spend actively participating in their childs education

Home schooling is as expensive as you make it. Trips to museums and events are sometimes free, equipment is trivial as once you've got it, you've got it. You can subscribe to online teaching, which is amazing when you have world renowned professors teaching your child basic math :D

Its not that bad.
 
I have less issue with the fire pixie, more with the belief that the 'white' human is a more advanced stage of ethic evolution - non-white people are inferior in many ways, according to Rudi. Also, things like this:

“But the people that didn’t develop their id, that was too exposed to the influence of the sun, they were like plants: They produced far too much carbon under their skin – and became black. That is why the negroes are black.”

Most of them don't teach that.

But most of the UK believe that Muslims are terrorists, so why is one more acceptable then the other?
 
Home schooling is as expensive as you make it. Trips to museums and events are sometimes free, equipment is trivial as once you've got it, you've got it. You can subscribe to online teaching, which is amazing when you have world renowned professors teaching your child basic math :D

Its not that bad.

I'm meaning from the point of I would not be working, therefore couldn't afford it. :p

I am the sole income.
 
Most of them don't teach that.

But most of the UK believe that Muslims are terrorists, so why is one more acceptable then the other?

OK, you are clearly wedded to your views, but for what it is worth: neither is acceptable - your argument is a straw man, and biased from your own perceptions. Also, your arguments are unsupportable from evidence, but we don't need to get in to that.

I would be interested, however, in the evidence that children in Montessori schools 'actually perform better in every way then normal state schooled children'.
 
OK, you are clearly wedded to your views, but for what it is worth: neither is acceptable - your argument is a straw man, and biased from your own perceptions. Also, your arguments are unsupportable from evidence, but we don't need to get in to that.

Well the Stiener School in York don't teach this and i speak to daily 3 of their teachers. So there is some evidence for you.

You assume all of them teach this, yet provide no proof.

I would be interested, however, in the evidence that children in Montessori schools 'actually perform better in every way then normal state schooled children'.

I don't have time to point you to studies, as my son is due to wake up in less then 15mins, but you can do your own research.

A good start would be here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studies_of_Waldorf_education
 
Again stop thinking horizontal, not everything has to lead to a job.

What if my Son becomes a Doctor, from his own choice. Then through his passion of self learning, learns another language and opens up a hospital for free to help others?

Is that a wrong path to take?
Your example is flawed:

To become a doctor you need a masters, to get onto a medicine course at University you need grades, lots of them - there is no getting around this issue.

I assume he would be setting up this free hospital from some sort of wealth he has gained somewhere? Did he get this money for free, or did he earn it whilst become a doctor?

Lets start living in the real world shall we......

Do you know what Empathy is?

Im beginning to think you dont understand the term if that was your response to what I stated.
 
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Why?

Because they teach you the Fire pixie?

Yet its ok to teach children that a small women with wings steal your teeth from under your pillow and leave you money?

Or that a bunny goes around and leaves you chocolate eggs?

Seriously?

Its a bit more than that... the whole dubious philosophy/'religion' behind it and the various problems parents have faced as a result.

I'm sure its great for naive parents who like to see themselves as being 'alternative' etc...
 
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