New Job or Old New Job?

m4cc45

m4cc45

m4cc45

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Hi,

Firstly I'm posting this on behalf of a friend as he/she doesn't want to be found out as his/her colleagues frequents these forums so replies will be proxied :D

Essentially he/she works for a huge company having only started around 8-10 weeks ago. The job he/she is doing is not exactly what he/she expected with a lot more paper based focus than actually doing anything technical (his/her background is technical). There is no chance of overtime and to get promoted is dead mans shoes. Training will be provided on some new technologies, etc. though.

He/She currently has the option of a new job with initially a 7k increase in pay. The company that is offering this is tiny in comparison. The job would be much more technical and there is a chance that he/she could earn a further 5-10k with overtime, etc. Though, again, there is very little chance of any promotion and training and he/she would be the final point of contact in the company so he/she may be very busy.

In his/her shoes what would you do?



M.
 
From the sounds of it move to the new place.

From what you've said, there's only positives to move. Increase in pay, job more what was expected, overtime possible. Only downside, is the lack of promotions possible, but as the current company is the same, I don't see an issue.
 
More money, paid overtime, work closer to the field they wish to do. Downsides are the same as the current company...

Not a difficult decision imo.
 
How is this a difficult decision? What is with all these job threads - can people not make any decisions for themselves any more?
 
It's getting confirmation on what he/she knew already I guess. My advice was very similar. The only real query he/she had was that the big company versus the little company in terms of looking good on a CV. I guess if he/she was at the big company for a few years then it would look fantastic on the CV but then how that transfers to monetary value I have no idea.



M.
 
m4cc45 said:
It's getting confirmation on what he/she knew already I guess. My advice was very similar. The only real query he/she had was that the big company versus the little company in terms of looking good on a CV. I guess if he/she was at the big company for a few years then it would look fantastic on the CV but then how that transfers to monetary value I have no idea.



M.
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Its the size of the company which looks good, but the reputation and what you say about the work you do.
 
P.S. This thread is ultimately my fault as I told him/her that he/she shouldn't make the decision on his/her own (expecting them to talk it through with family / friends).


M.
 
m4cc45 said:
It's getting confirmation on what he/she knew already I guess. My advice was very similar. The only real query he/she had was that the big company versus the little company in terms of looking good on a CV. I guess if he/she was at the big company for a few years then it would look fantastic on the CV but then how that transfers to monetary value I have no idea.



M.
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I've not seen anything to suggest that certain companies look better than others - if its just the size of the company you are talking about. It all depends on what you were doing in that company and how well you did it
 
I'd find out just how serious the new places owner is about expanding his business and how involved with it he is on a day to day basis

leaving big company for even smaller company with surely even less prospects other than the initial 7k
 
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randomshenans said:
HE/SHE MADE ME DO IT! GD IS TO BLAME FOR MY MISERY.
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Pretty much!

His/Her response:

The current place is massive / new place is established but not going to be expanding any time soon. We're talking 100k employees for the current and <300 people in the new place.

I'll try and find out about the job position.



M.
 
300 people is fairly sizeable. I work for a 80 man company operating in EU/Asia/Middle east..

Id say go. Better money, skills and prospects. You can be the big fish in a small pond rather than small fish in a big pond.

If it doesnt work out in a few years, move on. Take the money you earned and skills you learned and see where it takes you
 
Importantly, this person is likely still going to be in his/her probation period in the current position, meaning that there won't be a drawn out leaving process and likely a very short notice period (maybe a week or two).
 
He/She believes it's one week (though needs to check the contract). They're definitely in the probation period though.

I don't know how they will write it up on there CV (they may well omit it in the future) the only minor concern I have for them is that the gap looks really bad.



M.
 
Probation periods are not just there for the employer, they're also there for the employee*. If I was in a similar position and did leave after 10 weeks, in interviews, I would simply state words to the effect of that the job and workplace was not as I had been led to believe and that I was offered a more suitable position elsewhere. As long as you give a good reason and show you aren't just hopping from job to job, I am sure most reasonable interviewers would give you the benefit of the doubt... I know that I would.



* I know at least one guy who resigned during a probation period. He got a much better paying job elsewhere so I don't blame him. I think he handed in his notice on the last day of his three month probation period. :p
 
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