Martial arts after long brake from kyokushin karate

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I use to train kyokushin karate, which kept me fit. But, because I was young and the trainings took most of my time . I stopped just to play foothball, the biggest mistake I've probably made which I regret. I was in an amateur rugby club 2 years ago, but it wasn't for me. I gained a 'beer muscle' over these 2 years without any sport, so where should I start? I'm still young and would not only like to get fit, but also learn to fight/defend myself. Because I'm still being on a treatment to see if I've asthma or if its just my dust mites allergy. I cant run for too long, as it takes more time for me to catch my breath. So, I was thinking of cycling to gain better stamina, as it allows me to take short brakes in between, these short brakes help me to be more efficient. As without them, it takes too long to regenerate..


Typing from phone, sorry for any grammar errors.

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I'm not sure if this is relevant, but my height is 184cm and weight 80kg.
 
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I always found boxing to provide the best training and workouts. There's so much variation across the exercises, that you can tailor your 'programmes' (or whatever you want to call them) to your exact requirements. Cardio, lung capacity, strength, stamina, power, balance, speed... there's whole worlds of stuff for each, or a combination (pun intended) thereof.
Plus the actual boxing, should you choose to try it out, works damn well if you ever need defense.

I've done a wide variety of sporty activities and I was never fitter than when I was boxing. Even the Army was mostly a cakewalk by comparison!
 
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I always found boxing to provide the best training and workouts. There's so much variation across the exercises, that you can tailor your 'programmes' (or whatever you want to call them) to your exact requirements. Cardio, lung capacity, strength, stamina, power, balance, speed... there's whole worlds of stuff for each, or a combination (pun intended) thereof.
Plus the actual boxing, should you choose to try it out, works damn well if you ever need defense.

I've done a wide variety of sporty activities and I was never fitter than when I was boxing. Even the Army was mostly a cakewalk by comparison!
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My first thought was to go to the gym, but then I thought, it would be boring. Boxing sound good, all though I would like something which would also involve legs. I've never been too interested in boxing, but I'll have a look at how beginners training looks like.
 
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Boxing sound good, all though I would like something which would also involve legs.
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Power in a punch comes from the feet, up through the legs, into the hips and then out from the shoulders. So don't worry - There's plenty of legwork involved... along with sadistic fitness trainers who make you *really* work for it!!

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I've never been too interested in boxing, but I'll have a look at how beginners training looks like.
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I started mainly for the fitness training. The actual hitting of people and getting into the ring was just something I took to.
Some clubs are competition-centric, others are more hobbyist and there are general 'fighting fit' gym type clubs that do either or both, along with trainings for other arts.
 
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Power in a punch comes from the feet, up through the legs, into the hips and then out from the shoulders. So don't worry - There's plenty of legwork involved... along with sadistic fitness trainers who make you *really* work for it!!
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I know that movement and co-ordination are very important, to throw a powerful punch. But you don't use legs in the combo e.g. 3 punches, low kick, punch and low kick etc.

ttaskmaster said:
I started mainly for the fitness training. The actual hitting of people and getting into the ring was just something I took to.
Some clubs are competition-centric, others are more hobbyist and there are general 'fighting fit' gym type clubs that do either or both, along with trainings for other arts.
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Competing with others for me is usually the best motivation. :cool:
There's a club in my town which charges £3.50 per session, also all the members of the club have access to the gym and they do Sunday group jogging etc. I might go around to have a look this Sunday :)
 
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IC3 said:
But you don't use legs in the combo e.g. 3 punches, low kick, punch and low kick etc.
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How do you keep from falling over, then? :D

"The hand throwing a punch is supported by the foot beneath it", or words to that effect, was what was drummed into us. Combos need two strong legs, firmly planted - This was proven when we were made to try various moves standing just on one leg... and all fell over! :D
Even with kicks, you do better with strong legs to push off from. If I'd gone from boxing to Tae Kwon Do instead of the other way around, I'd have been great!

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There's a club in my town which charges £3.50 per session, also all the members of the club have access to the gym and they do Sunday group jogging etc. I might go around to have a look this Sunday :)
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Sounds wicked!!
Let us know how you get on!
 
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How do you keep from falling over, then? :D

"The hand throwing a punch is supported by the foot beneath it", or words to that effect, was what was drummed into us. Combos need two strong legs, firmly planted - This was proven when we were made to try various moves standing just on one leg... and all fell over! :D
Even with kicks, you do better with strong legs to push off from.
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I meant a combo like e.g. the one on this vid


ttaskmaster said:
If I'd gone from boxing to Tae Kwon Do instead of the other way around, I'd have been great!


Sounds wicked!!
Let us know how you get on!
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Yeah, I'll start with boxing first, it should help to work on my body co-ordination and stamina :)
 
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I meant a combo like e.g. the one on this vid
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That vid is more athletic that martial. Half those strikes had zero power. Very pretty, though not so much use in actual defense. Most of those I've known who studied a kick-style art and had to use it in anger (myself included) found the footwork either prohibited by the situation or more of a detriment than a use, especially if your opponent(s) favour 'dirty' fighting. Bit of a painful truth after years of study.
Most fights tend to kick off in crowded places with furniture, people and a general lack of space, so even single kicks can put you in a bad situation very quickly.
It all depends what you want to do with this.

In general, I'd suggest:
For fitness - Boxing workouts, or joining the military.
For sports - Kick-style martial arts.
For display - Any martial art you like. I most enjoyed the nunchaku.
For defense - Self defense classes/boxing.
 
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That vid is more athletic that martial. Half those strikes had zero power. Very pretty, though not so much use in actual defense. Most of those I've known who studied a kick-style art and had to use it in anger (myself included) found the footwork either prohibited by the situation or more of a detriment than a use, especially if your opponent(s) favour 'dirty' fighting. Bit of a painful truth after years of study.
Most fights tend to kick off in crowded places with furniture, people and a general lack of space, so even single kicks can put you in a bad situation very quickly.
It all depends what you want to do with this.

In general, I'd suggest:
For fitness - Boxing workouts, or joining the military.
For sports - Kick-style martial arts.
For display - Any martial art you like. I most enjoyed the nunchaku.
For defense - Self defense classes/boxing.
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So boxing then as it tickes all the boxes (fitness and defense)
 
Certainly go for the fitness. You'll probably learn a load of useful little techniques and tricks if you study the boxing art. Then if you decide to switch to something more kick-centric, it will stand you in awesome stead!

And yes, they do still get you on the girly skipping ropes!! :D
 
I want something efficient, so if 2-3 scumbags try to jump on me I can beat them up :p. For me personally there's no point learning something that looks cool, I want to use it, if I've to ofc ;).

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I'm not saying boxing isn't 'cool', but you've to agree that asian styles are much more spectacular :)
 
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I practice Kendo, it's not a self-defence martial art unless you can aquire a Katana during being attacked, but it will keep you fit and it's got a great community.

One of the best things I ever done in my life.
 
IC3 said:
I want something efficient
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"Simplicity is Efficiency's best friend".

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I'm not saying boxing isn't 'cool', but you've to agree that asian styles are much more spectacular :)
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Oh, for sure. I really enjoyed Kung Fu for that reason.

Boxing is definitely not cool-looking... If anything, it's positively brutal. It just works and the functionality was the appeal for me. I personally preferred it above all the other arts I tried mostly because the science behind it is so exact.
 
Very similar, just you will be adding the headshots.

Or find a Kyokushin place that is less traditional and trains with headshots.

My father in law is a 2nd Dan in Kyoksuhin and I have trained it on and off for 3 or so years, we train traditional Kyokushin but also we do K1 training on top.
 
Thanks for the help, at the moment they've changed my course (3rd time!) I"ll have to wait till they tell me what units we're actually doing. The main boss of all tutors, she has admitted that the course wasn't very organised as tutors and students weren't really clear what they've to do. So at the moment there's no point for me to go there once a week :(, I was thinking of going there at least 3x a week to actually learn something :p
 
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Look at Krav Maga, I've been doing it about two months and I've learnt a whole load of practical self defense in that time and it's a solid workout too :)
 
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