Goodbye AMD FX, Hello Intel I7..... maybe!

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Nahhh then...

Obvioulsy there has been previous threads like this in the past, but.
I am seriously considering going from my usual AMD to Intel. Now I have never run Intel, I have always been an AMD man.
I know which CPU ill have, I7 4770K, im just deciding on a mobo and not really sure of what is on offer, mainly because Im an AMD kinda bloke.

So, any advice and help with mobo choice would be proper!

I already have PSU (1000w platinum), GPU(MSI R9 290X Lighting, b3ast of a card!), RAM(16gb corsair), HDD, H100i cooler, case, fans (and controller) ect....

So the mobo... Id like it to be a bit of an overclocker, not extreme stuff, just a bit extra oooomph. Id like it to accommodate my dual band wifi card (pci express) and my Asus Xonar card (pci). Ill also be getting a SSD too, probably Samsung Pro 256gb.

I think thats it! Sorry for any bad spelling, im posting this on my phone!!
 
dan958 said:
I went from an old AMD 5800k to an i7 4770k. Games such as ARMA 3 were vastly improved and video rendering was an amazing improvment. Rendering a video now takes the length of the video (20 min video takes 20 mins to render) when previously it took at least 5X as long.

I was recommended this mobo http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-476-GI

And it has been fine for me, i'm also running an SSD.
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That is the beauty of quicsync :)

The MSI GD range is just as good too!
 
What chip are you coming from? the 4770K doesn't get any better unless you spend hundreds more on Ivybridge-E and X79.
 
Im not sure the change is worth it unless you can sell what you have and spend very little in doing the change.
 
stulid said:
Im not sure the change is worth it unless you can sell what you have and spend very little in doing the change.
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Oh yeah, my current cpu and mobo will be sold to help fund it.

Why don't you think the change would be worth it? As in a money sort of way or performance sort of way?
 
Have fx chips clocked to the same speed as your 9590 and even some a bit higher. Also have a 4770k and a 290x. Can tell you that there is little improvement to be had in some games like BF4 but other games like DayZ stand to gain a lot!

DayZ literately went from unplayable (18-28 fps in City) to comfortably playable at 30-45 fps.

Another example is COD ghosts. Average GPU usage on my heavily overclocked 290x per game was around the mid 70's but with the 4770k , i average 97-99%.

Board wise, most Z87 boards will suit. I have a Gigabyte OC, which is the most OC friendly board i have used, bios UI wise. It's PCIe set up is awesome featuring four x16 slots. The first and third are PCIe 3.0 x 16 and the middle is PCIe 3.0 x4 and shares bandwidth with eachother. The fourth PCIe slot is on a seperate chip and is always running at PCIe x 4. This means you can put your Wifi card in there without limiting your bandwidth in the first three slots which can be run at (PCIe 3.0 x16, x8/x8, x8/x4/x4). It also has a PCIe x1 slot and two PCI slots which can be used by your sound card. So your Wifi card, sound card and GPU can be all in and not share any bandwidth with each other.

Only downside to the board is it isnt equipped with an awesome sound chip, but that is irrelevant to you, as you have a sound card.

Do i think it is worth the upgrade? Only if you are unhappy with it currently. My own reason to upgrade was to bench and eventually get a second GPU.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
Have fx chips clocked to the same speed as your 9590 and even some a bit higher. Also have a 4770k and a 290x. Can tell you that there is little improvement to be had in some games like BF4 but other games like DayZ stand to gain a lot!

DayZ literately went from unplayable (18-28 fps in City) to comfortably playable at 30-45 fps.

Another example is COD ghosts. Average GPU usage on my heavily overclocked 290x per game was around the mid 70's but with the 4770k , i average 97-99%.

Board wise, most Z87 boards will suit. I have a Gigabyte OC, which is the most OC friendly board i have used, bios UI wise. It's PCIe set up is awesome featuring four x16 slots. The first and third are PCIe 3.0 x 16 and the middle is PCIe 3.0 x4 and shares bandwidth with eachother. The fourth PCIe slot is on a seperate chip and is always running at PCIe x 4. This means you can put your Wifi card in there without limiting your bandwidth in the first three slots which can be run at (PCIe 3.0 x16, x8/x8, x8/x4/x4). It also has a PCIe x1 slot and two PCI slots which can be used by your sound card. So your Wifi card, sound card and GPU can be all in and not share any bandwidth with each other.

Only downside to the board is it isnt equipped with an awesome sound chip, but that is irrelevant to you, as you have a sound card.

Do i think it is worth the upgrade? Only if you are unhappy with it currently. My own reason to upgrade was to bench and eventually get a second GPU.
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thats some of the best advice so far thanks!
I just want to be clear, are we talking about this board http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-478-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2574 or this board http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-434-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2574?

If we're talking about the second board then that wont work because my GPU take up 2.5 spaces so it will cover the PCI-E slot which means no wifi card. If its the first board then that wont work too seeing as it doesnt have any PCI slots for the sound card.

This is the sound card http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SC-011-AS&groupid=701&catid=11
and this the wifi http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=NW-057-TP&groupid=46&catid=1597

Imm looking at this http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-446-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2574
and this http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-433-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2574
or even this http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-477-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2574

thoughts?
 
I know he mean second board.

You can use the bottom PCi_E 16X slot for your wifi as that is run from the chipset and doesnt effect the three other orange slots.
 
Right, yes you can put that 1X PCI-E soundcard into any PCI-E slot on any board.

But....

What normally happens is the speed of other slots is effect.

Lets me try and explain.


The OC board has four PCI-E 16X slots but these are the physical length of the plastic, the actual connections inside the slot are not full length aaprt from the first slot.

So,

Top slot gets 16X bandwidth and is wired as so.


Third slot is wired at 8X and to do this steals 8X from the first slot so you have 2-way SLI/Crossfire at 8X/8X, but then a sound card will also cause this, so you get 8X in the top slot for a GFX card and the sound card in the third long slot is only using 1X, but is actually forcing 8X to be diverted to the slot.


The second long slot is wired at 4X, to get this it then steals bandwidth from the other two slots, so you have 8X/4X/4X for 3-way Crossfire (Not SLI as you need a minimum of 8X to run SLI)


All these three slots are connected to the CPU directly and the lanes are diverted via "switches" which moves the 8X/4X around as needed when a card is fitted into that slot.


The last long slot is connected to the actual Z87 chipset and always gets 4X no matter what the other three are doing, because its from the chipset it also only runs at PCI-E2.0


Using all four of these slots you have 8X/4X/4X (PCI-E3.0) and 4X (PCI-E2.0) 4-way Crossfire.

You can stick the sound card in the bottom slot and not effect a GFX card in any of the first three slots.

Or stick the sound card in the 2nd+3rd long slots and it will work but cause the other slots to run at the lower speeds.


The above is for the Z87X-OC, other boards, well you need to look at the specs to work out what is happening.
 
Sorry just done an amendment to the above, being late I forgot that it is the first and third long slots that do 8X/8X so you get a better gap between the cards.

So in simple terms its wired up as so,

1. 16x(16x electrical) 3.0
2. 1x(1x electrical)
3. 16x(4x electrical) 3.0
4. PCI
5. 16x(8x electrical) 3.0
6. PCI
7. 16x(4x electrical) 2.0
 
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