Remember when the government raised tuition fees to £9k a year?

WillyNelson said:
Everyone does get a free education up to the age of 18. Education is a right, further education is a privilege.

Unfortunately the entitled masses believe that everyone should automatically be allowed to go to university without paying a penny for the privilege because they've been told that they can get a degree and will do far better afterwards. However all this does is increase the number of '2nd rate' qualifications and diminish the value of having a degree in the job market. And because more people go to university it has to be funded more by the individual, leaving large numbers of young people with poor degrees and masses of debt.
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So, in short, you've ignored every single person who went to uni in the hope of actually being educated!
 
Skeeter said:
So the government gives you loads of cheap money.

If you get a decent job you pay it back slowly. If you don't get a decent job then it was just free money.

And people actually want to complain about this?
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awww I guess you're feeling left out as only someone who never went to uni would say anything as stupid as this, but you forget you had your chance at the free money for higher education too!
 
Moses said:
Masters fees weren't affected, which is what people tended to use the CDL for. Undergrad was, and is, funded by student loans.

Unless you're talking about doing a second undergrad degree? If that's the case then cry me a river - everyone gets funded for their first crack (plus an extra year if anything goes wrong), which seems completely reasonable.
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I saw plenty of masters fees go up off the back of this. I know because I was hoping to apply around the time it happened and got priced out of it.
 
People who earn under 21k should be forced to make a token payment:

No wage - no pay
Min wage - 15k - 5quid month
16-21k - 10quid month

Not a vast sum off money, but some money recouped is better then none.
 
Loans will get worse, you pay more for courses?

What's the point in a uni education anymore especially when it tends to lead to average jobs anyway. Unless attendance goes off a cliff making degrees more worthwhile I will be advising my son to get an apprenticeship instead though they are not as useful as they used to be.

Yay progress :rolleyes:
 
MrMoonX said:
awww I guess you're feeling left out as only someone who never went to uni would say anything as stupid as this, but you forget you had your chance at the free money for higher education too!
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Looks at degree...
Looks at 40% tax band salary...
Looks at student loan payments...

Nope, try again.

Tuition fee loans are cheap, and you only pay them back when you can afford too. It doesn't stop people going to uni because they "can't afford it" as its money they don't need to find.

When I went to uni I had to walk up with a cheque for the entire tuition fee amount at the begining of the year or get no education. Being lent the money opens university up to more people, not less.
 
Ah university.... A place where I was taught so much and never applied it to my working life.

I'm so glad I didn't have to pay for my course.
 
No1newts said:
... What's the point in a uni education anymore especially when it tends to lead to average jobs anyway. ...
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I would disagree with you and say that an average degree from an average university often leads to an average job. If you get a good degree from a good university, you'll usually be in much better shape for the future. For example, my younger brother's university has companies like Boeing, EADS (Airbus) and Rolls Royce approaching the university for graduates, not the other way round.
 
My placement year got me my first job after Uni. The institution I was tought at was irrelevant to anyone other than my GF at the times grand monther :p.
 
Skeeter said:
Looks at degree...
Looks at 40% tax band salary...
Looks at student loan payments...

Nope, try again.

Tuition fee loans are cheap, and you only pay them back when you can afford too. It doesn't stop people going to uni because they "can't afford it" as its money they don't need to find.

When I went to uni I had to walk up with a cheque for the entire tuition fee amount at the begining of the year or get no education. Being lent the money opens university up to more people, not less.
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*sigh* its boring having this same convocation with your types everytime this subject crops up. debt is a form of slavery, social mobility, people arent stupid, blah blah blah.
 
bledd. said:
Student loloan, I don't even read the letters for mine. The shredder munches them up. Gets paid off slowly each month automatically
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I wouldn't recommend that when your near to paying it off you should get your tax code chamged and send SLC a cheque for the balance otherwise you will end up over paying and it will takes ages for them to resolve it and give you a refund for the difference.
 
Not surprised, like everyone; i knew this would be the case.

And i won't be surprised if it send more people abroad to work. I'm a graduate myself (nearly 2 years into my first real job) and SL is taking a fair chunk out of my pay packet...

Im not ruling out going abroad,, :)
 
bledd. said:
Student loloan, I don't even read the letters for mine. The shredder munches them up. Gets paid off slowly each month automatically
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Wouldn't recommend that. I had something come through the post recently from them which made me realise that they never received any of my contributions in 2011/12. Had to send over my P60 for that year so that they could update my account to rectify it.

If I hadn't have read my letter then I'd still be none the wiser and would have ended up overspending.
 
My Mrs owes 15k from her time at uni 5 years ago, she has not paid a penny of this back due to illness, i doubt they will ever get the money back.
 
Skeeter said:
"Your types"?

And debt is slavery, what?
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Don't worry, he obviously has a great sense of entitlement where he should get everything for nothing and expect poor Mrs Miggins that works for minimum wage on the checkouts at the local supermarket help pay for his education while he sleeps in till 12.00pm and then goes to drink himself stupid in the SU bar.
 
Judgeneo said:
Its just effectively become a graduate tax, which was always what the lib dems wanted in the long run.
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This is what i've had to accept it as. But what makes it even more fitting to call it a tax is how the money is passed through an inefficient system designed by a bunch of idiots.
 
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