It's here - Sharia law to be enshrined in UK legal system

I know that in the 'Islamic Golden Age' huge progress was made in astronomy and I believe maths too.

Like I said:

"Ever since 1200AD, muslim countries have been reliant on the West for access to scientific progress"

Islams golden age was mid-7th century to the mid-13th century,
I'm talking about islams culture today, which is minimal at best.


Do you ever look at your links? Again those are all golden age artifacts.

Yes some of them are very nice, but are still artisan wares (plates, rugs and teapots), not actual art as the modern world knows it.
They have produced literally nothing of interest for centuries, it's a dead and barren culture.
 
Do you ever look at your links? Again those are all golden age artifacts.

Yes some of them are very nice, but are still artisan wares (plates, rugs and teapots), not actual art as the modern world knows it.
They have produced literally nothing of interest for centuries, it's a dead and barren culture.

Shock horror, other cultures don't conform to male, white, western expectations of art.
 
Like I said:

"Ever since 1200AD, muslim countries have been reliant on the West for access to scientific progress"

Islams golden age was mid-7th century to the mid-13th century,
I'm talking about islams culture today, which is minimal at best.



Do you ever look at your links? Again those are all golden age artifacts.

Yes some of them are very nice, but are still artisan wares (plates, rugs and teapots), not actual art as the modern world knows it.
They have produced literally nothing of interest for centuries, it's a dead and barren culture.

Well then no need to worry about them coming over here and staying. If their culture is minimal it won't catch on...:rolleyes:

Again, have you ever been to islamic countries?
 
Shock horror, other cultures don't conform to male, white, western expectations of art.

It's nothing to do with expectations of art, it's the fact that they are limited by some daft pictorial rule so all they can produce is graphic art. Hence the repetitive sqiggles and calligraphy. They should expand into tattoos, they would go down a storm.

The modern world has been there and done that, and such graphic art is a pretty minor branch of what we have produced (a few Celts and some art school students would have it nailed)
Even just including 1500 years of European paintings completely and utterly decimates the entire cultural output of islam going back to year dot.

Plus our artistic culture is constantly expanding and pushing boundaries,
Islam just sits there with its stinky 500 year old thumb up its bum, churning out the same old tat.
They are a cultural dead end and have been for centuries.

Imagine islam doing ballet, or opera or classical music or theatre?
The nearest they get is belly dancing (banned) and banging some drums (also banned)
It's so pathetic I could cry.


Well then no need to worry about them coming over here and staying. If their culture is minimal it won't catch on...:rolleyes:
Well as some idiot let them in and then went to war with all their homelands we are somewhat stuck with the problem :(

The cultural problem is one of suppression, if you have a boring subversive culture expanding into a complacent rich one, the existing culture is removed.
Islam has no interest in adopting our culture, they only want to replicate their own.


Imagine if you had a nice little independent cinema showing Bogart films and French Film Noir, but then 2.7million muslims moved in next door,
you think any of them are going to want to see a B&W film?
It would be out of business in a month.

Local theatre group? Nope, islam doesn't do theatre, out of business in a month.
 
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Shock horror, other cultures don't conform to male, white, western expectations of art.

to be fair he kinda has a point on that if you google image "islamic art" everything is kinda the same repeating pattern

repalkcing islamic with other religions such as christian, hindu, bhuddist doesn't have the same trend of similarity to it.
 
Can't tell if this is OCUK GD anymore or
stormfront.org
See, Stormfront is about as extreme far right as it gets for white people.
(Londoners moaning about the weather mostly)



For islamists on the other hand, slightly right of centre means posting videos of people being hacked to death, for stuff that wouldn't even warrant an ASBO in the UK.
What's your favourite video? The child hacking off a civilians head is pretty good, but then so is the two old women being shot in the face, and then there is the guy being crucified until he rots (a bit slow that one tbh).
The butchering of those guys in front of twenty children must have been a nice way to spend an afternoon, beats Tellytubbies.


Still, everyone is equal innit? and I feel brim full of multicultural enrichment courtesy of Liberal Jihad TV :)

They really should stop playing those 18 rated video games though :mad:
RSI is a serious issue

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See, Stormfront is about as extreme far right as it gets for white people.
(Londoners moaning about the weather mostly)

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/f92/ Perhaps you are on about a different Storm Front? Quite telling how you down play, and i'm pretty sure extreme far right goes a "tad" further for "white" people :o obviously you have to as your probably a member and they spout the same crap as you). " A HISTORY OF THE JEWS" quite telling.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/6923933.stm

described by police at the time of his arrest as the largest amount of chemical explosive of its type ever found in this country.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7469180.stm

Martyn Gilleard has been found guilty of making bombs for a far-right terrorist campaign, after having previously admitted downloading thousands of images of child sexual abuse.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/dec/13/uk-security-nazi-terrorist-jailed

A neo-Nazi who hoarded bombmaking materials and waged a racist campaign against a mixed-race couple was jailed for more than seven years yesterday.

A jury at Grimsby crown court took three-and-a-half hours to find Nathan Worrell, 35, guilty of possession of material for terrorist purposes and racially aggravated harassment.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8124449.stm

A racist arrested by chance at a railway station was "on the cusp" of waging a terror campaign using tennis balls and weedkiller, a jury has heard.

Neil Lewington, 43, had a bomb factory at his parents' home in Reading, Berks, and wanted to target those he thought "non-British", prosecutors alleged.

Obviously given your statement above you welcome the above, probably the same for you as watching some cricket and eating cucumber sandwiches.

I would also like to know what have you done to stop the above? I guess nothing. By that notion I suspect you covertly support such things.

For muslims on the other hand, slightly right of centre means posting videos of people being hacked to death, for stuff that wouldn't even warrant an ASBO in the UK.
What's your favourite video? The child hacking off a civilians head is pretty good, but then so is the two old women being shot in the face, and then there is the guy being crucified until he rots (a bit slow that one tbh).
The butchering of those guys in front of twenty children must have been a nice way to spend an afternoon, beats Tellytubbies.

Still, everyone is equal innit? and I feel brim full of multicultural enrichment courtesy of Liberal Jihad TV :)

They really should stop playing those 18 rated video games though :mad:

It's quite telling you have seen these sort of videos, I tend to avoid videos of people being killed, says something about you. Not sure how people from war torn countries like Syria are "slightly right of centre", where I assume these sorts of videos originate from.

And what lol, and then you complain no one takes you seriously and how liberal the forums are. Scared to post your views without fear of being banned ehh lol

You are an utter disgrace to these boards, quite frankly how you are not permabanned is beyond me, but I guess the mods are lenient towards far right gibberish (ironic isn't it)
 
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Perhaps you are on about a different Storm Front? Quite telling how you down play, and i'm pretty sure extreme far right goes a "tad" further for "white" people
Have you looked at it though? They do nothing more than moan about how somebody should do something about brown people and mutter about the government. It's like a knitting circle for old Londoners. Then there are the mixed race relationship issues where they fap over someone else getting the white girl instead of them, sad...
I think the Fourth Reich is a long time coming if this lot are planning it :D

" A HISTORY OF THE JEWS" quite telling.
Which is quite funny as I think I've defended the jews quite a few times in this forum, yet Zoome is pretty keen on berating them :D

Obviously given your statement above you welcome the above, probably the same for you as watching some cricket and eating cucumber sandwiches.
4 people?
OMG run for the hills... we are being overrun by neo nazis!! (have a read of your own links, just a bunch of idiot fantasists with a childs chemistry set :rolleyes:)

Compare them against the muslims being watched by the security services right now and they must easily run into the thousands, the number of plots foiled every year run into double figures.
If you are looking for threats to the UK just look at your own community, MI5 certainly does :)

It's quite telling you have seen these sort of videos
Just research for this thread, I was looking up "Liberal minded muslims (good with children, likes cats, loves art)" and that was all I could find :(

tbh if I wasn't wary of muslims beforehand, I am now, you people are freaking scary poo!!!! :eek:
Talk about complete absence of morals... sums up islam quite neatly though, religion of peace and all that.
When I was at school we sang songs and drew pictures of bible stories, some of these muslim kids seem to run the gauntlet between seeing people dismembered or being sexually abused. I'll never say RE was boring ever again.

I would also like to know what have you done to stop the above? I guess nothing. By that notion I suspect you covertly support such things.
Islamic hate preachers are on the streets every weekend in many muslim communities
Neo nazis are in their bedroom fapping over pictures of Aryan girls

I see a logistical problem holding up my end, but no issue with you doing your bit, so off you trot... :)

You are an utter disgrace to these boards, quite frankly how you are not permabanned is beyond me
Ha ha, so I point out that islamic "culture" is third rate, provide a reasonable amount of evidence for my points where requested, and you want me permabanned? :cool:
So much for defending your own people, can't do it can you? Easier to slay the messenger.
 
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Have you looked at it though? They do nothing more than moan about how somebody should do something about brown people and mutter about the government. It's like a knitting circle for old Londoners.
I think the Fourth Reich is a long time coming if this lot are planning it :D

I have and it's quite disturbing (well to normal people), but obviously it's "like a knitting circle" for you. Like I said it's quite telling how you downplay and attempt to defend such people. (and like I said obviously you have to as they share the same views as you)

batches of us got together with this plan and each batch moved lock stock & barrel to South Africa, overthrew the black government with the help of white S Africans and began to get more and more batches to join us asap....... then declared the country we have annexed as the Republic of New Britain

I wonder if the shoe was on the other foot caugh caugh if I remember correctly about Muslims apparently taking over schools some were frothing at the mouth.

Which is quite funny as I think I've defended the jews quite a few times in this forum, yet Zoome is pretty keen on berating them :D

It would be funny if I accused you of anything, rather than pointing out the forum you were defending has a sticky for "The history of jews" :) I think Zomee was simply pointing out your selective nature of your hate campaign, in fact I think I've brought it up with you in the past "blinkers" is the term I used for you. Seems I was correct.

4 people?
OMG run for the hills... we are being overrun by neo nazis!!

Isn't that enough? (not to mention last year brutal stabbing of an 80+ year old man, but I guess you love that)

EDL growth from a few hundred to "estimates that there are between 25,000 and 35,000 active members"

Even your "dear leader" left the group because of concerns of how dangerous it was becoming.

Compare them against the muslims being watched by the security services right now and they must easily run into the thousands, the number of plots foiled every year run into double figures.
If you are looking for threats to the UK, just look at your own community, MI5 certainly does

"I acknowledge the dangers of far-right extremism" (Dear Leader)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ctacular-terrorist-attack-UK-police-warn.html

Neo-Nazis are plotting a 'spectacular' terrorist attack on Britain to fuel racial tension, Scotland Yard's counter-terrorism officers fear.

Senior officers have increased their surveillance of suspects to monitor their ability to carry out a deadly attack aimed at causing a 'breakdown in community cohesion'.

Hmm, ill guess they will be watching "your" community too :o

Just research for this thread, I was looking up "Liberal minded muslims (good with children, likes cats, loves art)" and that was all I could find :(

tbh if I wasn't wary of muslims beforehand, I am now, you people are freaking scary poo!!!! :eek:
Talk about complete lack of morals.... sums up islam quite neatly though, religion of peace and all that.

So was I recently, was looking at the high standards morals of superior western culture. Where 3 women were butchered, one was pregnant :mad:

Special Operations forces dug bullets out of the bodies of the women to hide the true nature of their deaths.

Obviously that superior culture pulling out bullets of dead pregnant women you have butchered.

Ha ha, so I point out that islamic "culture" is third rate and you want me permabanned? :cool:
So much for defending your own people, can't do it can you? Easier to slay the messenger.

I was just pointing out how ironic it was you crying about "mod immunity" every other sentence and how liberal the forums were etc yet constantly post crap that is no different to what's on a white nationalist forum, not very liberal is it.

Regarding art and what ever else you were saying, what's the point on arguing on something that is rather subjective (obviously you didn't make that clear when expressing your views) Personally I like Islamic or Middle Eastern art / design but then that's me. I even like the culture, respect and honour etc, but again that's me. I like aspects of many cultures including parts of the UK culture, but again its all subjective.

Islamic hate preachers are on the streets every weekend in many muslim communities
Neo nazis are in their bedroom fapping over pictures of Aryan girls

I see a logistical problem holding up my end, but no issue with you doing your bit, so off you trot...

Given I have never seen one, ever in my entire life where I reside I think your claims are dubious at best :)

It's funny how you are trying to paint a picture of them being fairly harmless, day dreamers yet don't afford the same level of treatment to groups on the other side. There are many meetings and hate preachers too on the right wing side, weekend meets, marches etc so no excuse for you sit around with your thumb up your butt. On your bike then I guess? (that isn't factoring in that you are massive hypocrite lol)
 
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You are missing the point.
A person can have any reason they like for the subject of their will, it is their goods.
The family might challenge it, but they won't win on a whim.
If the person specifically left instructions to not allow x or y as part of the inheritance, then they will not receive anything.

The persons reasons might be religiously based, or nothing to do with religion at all.
The OP is a strawman, and means nothing for currently law in written wills.
Might be different in the case of testimonial style delivery, but that can always be challenged in a court by someone who disagrees.

Actually, that's not quite true.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inheritance_(Provision_for_Family_and_Dependants)_Act_1975
 
Hah, pathetic attempt at linking my points to some neo nazi plonkers :D

Even your "dear leader" left the group because of concerns of how dangerous it was becoming.
LOL, nothing to do with me, but yes he was correct, you can't run a protest group if everyone isn't on the same page and the EDL clearly had too many racist members to function as a neutral pressure group. Having watched some disturbingly biased media coverage he really had nowhere else to go.
A shame really as extreme Islamist groups are not going to disappear (ever) and now there is nobody to raise awareness of their activities. They will learn to become media savvy themselves, stop waving banners and acting like muppets and take a far more careful approach to pushing their agenda.
The problem with the Right is they expect Muslims to be stupid ethnics, but they are anything but.

Hmm, ill guess they will be watching "your" community too :o
White extremism has no organisation, there is no community to watch.
Look at that forum of dreamers, they couldn't organise a cake sale :D


Regarding art and what ever else you were saying, what's the point on arguing on something that is rather subjective. Personally I like Islamic or Middle Eastern art / design but then that's me.
What makes you think I don't like it? I quite like the vase designs and the metalwork is world class.
My point was this is just artisan ware, of a vary limited concept and in terms of art and architecture the islamic culture fairs poorly against every other culture. Despite the liberals lying to your face, nobody is ever going to be ethnically enriched by muslims, because they bring absolutely nothing to the table, just their silly religion which nobody wants.

That was the entirety of my point. You can rant on about silly stormfront if you want to but I can't see the connection myself?

I'm not the first to point this out, plenty of historians mention that there is little that is truly Islamic in middle eastern archtecture and their art has not progressed beyond the golden age.
It's like England if we had stuck to making tapestries of stick men on horseback...


Bitslice you are an awful person.
Depends if you look at the rhetoric or the point I'm making?
I've seen a lot of flacid comments in here, but nobody willing to address the issue of art and architecture. Anyone can play craterloads boring game of attacking the person and not the post, I can't wait for his next pedantic post pointing out a typo.
 
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Hah, pathetic attempt at linking my points to some neo nazi plonkers :D

It was the thread I was actually linking to "neo nazi plonkers" that's if you can remember my first post which you had an issue with and quoted.

LOL, nothing to do with me, but yes he was correct, you can't run a protest group if everyone isn't on the same page and the EDL clearly had too many racist members to function as a neutral pressure group. Having watched some disturbingly biased media coverage he really had nowhere else to go.
A shame really as extreme Islamist groups are not going to disappear (ever) and now there is nobody to raise awareness of their activities. They will learn to become media savvy themselves, stop waving banners and acting like muppets and take a far more careful approach to pushing their agenda.
The problem with the Right is they expect Muslims to be stupid ethnics, but they are anything but.

What do you mean nothing to do with you, you are so alike, same background, culture, views, nationality. Stop being an apologist and burying your head in the sand, by doing nothing you are in fact endorsing such groups and extremism.

White extremism has no organisation, there is no community to watch.
Look at that forum of dreamers, they couldn't organise a cake sale :D

Only takes two like minded people... Look what Brehvhic apparently accomplished alone, which kind of counters the organisation part. The quote speaks for itself regardless, in terms of your surveillance point. Either we can listen to you in that they couldn't organise a bake sale, or that of the Scotland Yard's counter-terrorism unit "monitor their ability to carry out a deadly attack", I think ill side with Scotland Yard if you don't mind :)

What makes you think I don't like it? I quite like the vase designs and the metalwork is world class.
My point was this is just artisan ware, of a vary limited concept and in terms of art and architecture the islamic culture fairs poorly against every other culture.

Like I said its subjective, and in your opinion Islamic culture fairs poorly. Given your history against Muslims in general I don't find this surprising the least. Secondly Islam is a religion not a culture in its self, that encompasses many cultures and peoples. Cultures are usually derived from the population and country/locality.

I'm not the first to point this out, plenty of historians mention that there is little that is truly Islamic in middle eastern archtecture and their art has not progressed beyond the golden age.
It's like England if we had stuck to making tapestries of stick men on horseback...

Name me some historians?

Architecture and art is again subjective to the audience, and is different for different regions. Again im not surprised you are not fond of the architecture or art given your distaste of Muslims in general but is appreciated by others.

What is about England's architecture that you see has progressed so much? What about the art?

Islamic art is often vibrant and distinctive.

Unlike Christian art, Islamic art isn't restricted to religious work, but includes all the artistic traditions in Muslim culture. Its strong aesthetic appeal transcends time and space, as well as differences in language and culture.

This is because of common features in all Islamic art which give it a remarkable coherence, regardless of the country or the time in which it was created.

There are, however, strong regional characteristics, and influences from other cultures are also visible.

The essentials of Islamic art
•Includes all Muslim art, not just explicitly religious art
•Islamic art seeks to portray the meaning and essence of things, rather than just their physical form
•Crafts and decorative arts are regarded as having full art status
•Painting and sculpture are not thought of as the noblest forms of art
•Calligraphy is a major art-form •Writing has high status in Islam
•Writing is a significant decoration for objects and buildings
•Books are a major art-form

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/art/art_1.shtml

Here's some excellent example of architecture http://all-that-is-interesting.com/marvels-of-islamic-architecture

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/marvels-of-islamic-architecture

But again making the point I made above, Islam like any other religion in that it is not a culture/art or architect and like all other religions will be based off the regional preferences.

You could also point all churches pretty much look the same in the UK, stained glass, pointy towers etc so no sure what your actual point is or if you even have one.
 
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Once again you seem to be suffering from a serious lack of perspective. The majority of posters in this thread have been pretty much saying it is a non issue (with the odd post from zoomee trying to blame the Jews again).

Perspective of what? Not sure my post touched on the OP issue, so perhaps your perspective of my post is the issue.

And I don't think that is what Zomee was attempting to do, which comes across as disingenuous on your part. If I have read correctly he was making a point about selective nature of posters singling out particular religions whilst giving others a free pass (for similar or greater issues). Given it was aimed at posters who have a history of such behaviour, he made a valid point.

But hey what do I know
 
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