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Moving somewhere nicer usually costs a premium, and who is going to want to move into an area where there is vandalism.
Vandalism in New Estate
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Moving somewhere nicer usually costs a premium, and who is going to want to move into an area where there is vandalism.
Agreed. The current property has lost value, plausibly due to the actions of the council. It may be possible to sue for the loss (and I suppose the impending lawsuit may motivate the council to reconsider their new no-fences scheme). The nicer property will cost more.
It's balancing cost against quality of life. Which is difficult.
The other choice is to stay where you are now and hope the council does something sensible. The council will not, and as time goes on the unchecked vandalism and theft is likely to increase, causing further distress and loss in the value of the property.
It's balancing cost against quality of life. Which is difficult.
The other choice is to stay where you are now and hope the council does something sensible. The council will not, and as time goes on the unchecked vandalism and theft is likely to increase, causing further distress and loss in the value of the property.
If the meeting doesnt produce anything beneficial, then yea, id get talking to a solicitor.
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Lol this for sure crap area is crap new housing doesn't mean anything.
Pcso's? That'll stop them then...
Our local council spent about 5 million giving a local estate a face lift in the early 90's. New fences, new pavements, new windows with a hope if they had a nice place to live they would look after it. LOL. The new fences were nicked the blocks for paving was nicked and this was after having a policy of moving all problem familyes into one estate. This then followed moving aformentioned families into rural areas to split them up with a hope that the would behave themselves.
The estate got so bad they decided to get rid of the problem once and for all and now about 8 streets do not exist anymore and they sold the land to private developers. It's a bit odd driving down a steet with nice lawned areas and no houses.
The estate got so bad they decided to get rid of the problem once and for all and now about 8 streets do not exist anymore and they sold the land to private developers. It's a bit odd driving down a steet with nice lawned areas and no houses.
Some people are just scum and will always be so. Attempting to socially engineer them into compliance doesn't work, the councils and local police have to back-up and support the decent hardworking people in the area *and be seen to do so*. If someone from a sink estate comes onto a decent area looking to cause mischief they should be told in no uncertain terms by the police that if they get injured while in the course of commissioning a crime, the police will be too busy to come out and see them.
Of course this is what *should* happen. It never will though.
Of course this is what *should* happen. It never will though.
Really what a blinkered view on life you have. If you don't conform to societies norms then you are worthless and should be disciplined.
Giving children who can't conform very low self esteem setting them on the path to drug abuse and self harm or harming others where simple help at an early stage can reduce or even eliminate the problem.
Luckily these days school teachers are trained to recognise children with problems and not just try to beat it out of them like back in the good old days.
A wild liberal appears!
Discipline is what kids lack these days. Take of those sugar coated glasses and realise that.
This incessant need to find some psychological/neurological disorder is part of the problem. Nine times out of ten, a misbehaving child is just a misbehaving child, one who's parents failed to install discipline in the early years and now that they're in a regimented environment and being told no and/or that they can't do something they're acting out.
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You do realise that people have been saying that consistently for literally thousands of years?
Yup. There were no naughty children in the good old days. Or crime. Or cancer.
Because creating ghettos works brilliantly... oh wa....
Please tell me more about the years of study you have done on psychology, sociology, criminality & behaviour.
I've highlighted in bold the kind of short sighted idiocy which annoys me most. You do not know any of this for a fact, so please stop speaking in certain terms or giving ridiculous percentages.
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Everyone one knows that teenagers back in the "good old days" did nothing except help the elderly and go to church. 
If you move on to a newbuild estate go into it under the assumption it will turn into a rough area.
People see some nice shiny houses and streets which aren't lived in and think "nice area" so they pay nice area prices for some crappy 2 bed cardboard box with a 1 million percent interest mortgage. Trouble is if you make it so and Tom, Dick and Kevin can get a mortgage with basically no deposit and a rubbish credit rating and you'll always get scumbags moving in around you.
Not much you can do except sell up and move into an established area, now that the scumbags have come into the area they'll continue to do so, they may well be from your surroundings and not the adjoining estate.
People see some nice shiny houses and streets which aren't lived in and think "nice area" so they pay nice area prices for some crappy 2 bed cardboard box with a 1 million percent interest mortgage. Trouble is if you make it so and Tom, Dick and Kevin can get a mortgage with basically no deposit and a rubbish credit rating and you'll always get scumbags moving in around you.
Not much you can do except sell up and move into an established area, now that the scumbags have come into the area they'll continue to do so, they may well be from your surroundings and not the adjoining estate.
By what % did the population go up?
You know, these problem families didn't exist in the good old days, back when people were educated properly. Then, suddenly, people emerged (not sure where from, can't have been through the cast-iron education system or the morally waterproof society) who had no idea how to raise a family or conduct themselves in an upstanding manner.
I just can't explain it