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Rroff said:
You've seen him play for yourself IRL? no idea if the person hacks or not or whatever but a lot of people are touchingly naive (in general) when it comes to cheaters - so many times seen people swear blind someone isn't cheating coz they are their friend/played with them a lot when its blatantly obvious they are a cheater :|
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No but he has played at LAN for a few decent teams and has over 3000 hours clocked up in BF3 (not including any private games) and I have played with him extensively in LevelBF. Some people are so touchingly naive to instantly assume hacks when it's clearly the terrible netcode in BF4. There is nothing suspicious about Kawusa
 
Rroff said:
You've seen him play for yourself IRL? no idea if the person hacks or not or whatever but a lot of people are touchingly naive (in general) when it comes to cheaters - so many times seen people swear blind someone isn't cheating coz they are their friend/played with them a lot when its blatantly obvious they are a cheater :|
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If you are so sure he/somebody is cheating what is wrong with somebody being so sure that they aren't? Have you seen him/them play for yourself IRL?
 
wndsr said:
If you are so sure he/somebody is cheating what is wrong with somebody being so sure that they aren't? Have you seen him/them play for yourself IRL?
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A lot of people have no idea what to look for when it comes to hacks - I'm not accusing this person of anything just saying see it a lot where friends think someone in their group is good but hes been cheating all along.
 
Rroff said:
You've seen him play for yourself IRL? no idea if the person hacks or not or whatever but a lot of people are touchingly naive (in general) when it comes to cheaters - so many times seen people swear blind someone isn't cheating coz they are their friend/played with them a lot when its blatantly obvious they are a cheater :|
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Nexus... :p
 
Rroff said:
A lot of people have no idea what to look for when it comes to hacks - I'm not accusing this person of anything just saying see it a lot where friends think someone in their group is good but hes been cheating all along.
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What exactly can you 'look for' on Battlefield when there is no first person and very limited spectating at best?

I assume this is the person you are referring to: http://bf4db.com/players/13299
 
wndsr said:
What exactly can you 'look for' on Battlefield when there is no first person and very limited spectating at best?

I assume this is the person you are referring to: http://bf4db.com/players/13299
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I'm not accusing anyone - just commenting on the "I've been friends with them for awhile they aren't cheating" thing in general.

What you can look for is a whole book in itself and without proper spectator mode its even harder. But thats another matter. I've played with people before and just watching the way they react and the player model turns in response to cues I can't see for myself after awhile you can potentially rule out it just being they are a higher skilled player and noticing things you haven't noticed the significance of.

People who spent a lot of time playing quake 3 before and after PB was introduced will probably have a bit of an idea where I'm coming from though. (That was hilarious for instances is of "no hes not cheating we've been clan mates for years", *sometime later PB is added*, "so uh if hes not cheating why has punkbuster just booted him?").
 
Rroff said:
I'm not accusing anyone - just commenting on the "I've been friends with them for awhile they aren't cheating" thing in general.

What you can look for is a whole book in itself and without proper spectator mode its even harder. But thats another matter. I've played with people before and just watching the way they react and the player model turns in response to cues I can't see for myself after awhile you can potentially rule out it just being they are a higher skilled player and noticing things you haven't noticed the significance of.

People who spent a lot of time playing quake 3 before and after PB was introduced will probably have a bit of an idea where I'm coming from though. (That was hilarious for instances is of "no hes not cheating we've been clan mates for years", *sometime later PB is added*, "so uh if hes not cheating why has punkbuster just booted him?").
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So how come the people you deem to be hacking haven't been banned from Punkbuster?
 
What people?

If you mean in general then often punkbuster catches up with them or they are using private/customised hacks rather than the common ones that get quickly banned, etc. or just stop playing before they get banned in some cases.
 
ive played with kawusa for over 3000+ hours in bf3 and bf4 and no he doesnt cheat he can live stream too if u think he hacks..

hes one of the top inf around europe and finland.. and hes a top guy also so plz no hackusations :D
 
Rroff said:
What people?

If you mean in general then often punkbuster catches up with them or they are using private/customised hacks rather than the common ones that get quickly banned, etc. or just stop playing before they get banned in some cases.
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With the greatest amount of respect, I don't think you have a clue what you're on about.

Playing games for lots of years doesn't make you a hack detecting wizard - especially not on a game as unbalanced and flawed as Battlefield.
 
wndsr said:
With the greatest amount of respect, I don't think you have a clue what you're on about.

Playing games for lots of years doesn't make you a hack detecting wizard - especially not on a game as unbalanced and flawed as Battlefield.
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Hmm you couldn't be more wrong but I don't really know how to show you the experience I have with it - a lot of people can't even come close to comprehending the experience I have i.e. I know the OGC source (most older cheats were based off this) like the back of my hand and the little traits of how it works which can potentially give it away and thats just one tiny aspect. Through the years with q2, 3, CS, COD, etc. I've been proved right so many times but unless you were in one of the communities I played in back then you wouldn't really know.

EDIT: Theres a lot of things that years of experience where you've been able to compare suspected cheaters against when they are proven cheaters or legit where you start to see little patterns emerge like for instance the way people fine hone their aim with ultra small strafe moves compared to the way they move when there is some degree of aimbot involved that can highlight suspect players and with more watching you can start to narrow it down from other aspects.
 
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Rroff said:
Hmm you couldn't be more wrong but I don't really know how to show you the experience I have with it - a lot of people can't even come close to comprehending the experience I have i.e. I know the OGC source (most older cheats were based off this) like the back of my hand and the little traits of how it works which can potentially give it away and thats just one tiny aspect. Through the years with q2, 3, CS, COD, etc. I've been proved right so many times but unless you were in one of the communities I played in back then you wouldn't really know.
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Why is it that other people think you are so wrong?
 
Fr0dders said:
Cheers

I've rejected all outstanding applications and it's now closed for applications. I've added an explanation and a link to the number 2 platoon in the presentation :)
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Ta mate

PhysicsMan94 said:
Think I just passed someone in cG for tank kills recently, cG-Matti or something :) That must mean I'm a 1337 pr0 :p
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#12 UK - well done bud.
 
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