Nonse gets £4500 pay out

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deuse said:
In my mind they should lose all rights because that’s what losing your liberty means. Go and look it up.

Another good reason to vote UKIP
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The universe will laugh if you get sent to prison and beaten up once there after the next election if Ukip win.
 
Detestable people get win court cases all the time when a wrong has been committed agains them.

This is no different.
 
deuse said:
In my mind they should lose all rights because that’s what losing your liberty means. Go and look it up.

Another good reason to vote UKIP
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Sometimes I fear for this country, it's like people want to return to 100 years ago (based on some deluded fantasy life was fantastic back then).
 
A person should not be attacked in prison as this demonstrates the inability of the prison to enforce order.

What should happen is that someone should be disciplined for allowing this to occur, if nobody can be blamed then changes should be made to prevent this from reoccurring, not specifically to him, but to all inmates.

But if it was up to me, he would be in a hard labor camp, or forced to serve in the military as meat shields. (people you send in to be shot at while your other forces can flank etc)
 
They are in prison as a punishment not for punishment.

A lack of wing staff lead to the serious assault happening.
 
Glaucus said:
No, you don't come from a different world at all.
It's very much the same world. with the same laws.

The fact you can't even give an argument, shows it is based on emotion and no logic at all. I'm sure you are well aware of this, hence that post,
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:p

Why does there have to be an argument, You have your opinion I have mine just as you have your own reasons for your opinions & I have my own life experience to bring me to mine.
If you want a fight/argument you need to Troll somebody else.
 
Not an argument in that sense, you do know what argument means? I didn't say heated argument or similar.

In logic and philosophy, an argument is an attempt to persuade someone of something, by giving reasons for accepting a particular conclusion as evident.[1][2] The general form of an argument in a natural language is that of premises (typically in the form of propositions, statements or sentences) in support of a claim: the conclusion.[3][4][5] The structure of some arguments can also be set out in a formal language, and formally-defined "arguments" can be made independently of natural language arguments, as in math, logic and computer science.
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You know you can not defend your position at all, and is the reason you haven't.
You know full well prisoners do not lose their rights and note should they. To suggest some shout is stupidity and you know it.

They've lost their right to freedom, they haven't lost all there rights and neither should they.
 
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So now you resort to calling me Stupid. :p

Honestly mate you couldn't spoil today if you tried for the rest of the day. :D
 
4T5 said:
:p

Why does there have to be an argument, You have your opinion I have mine just as you have your own reasons for your opinions & I have my own life experience to bring me to mine.
If you want a fight/argument you need to Troll somebody else.
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"My opinion" is not a defense for talking rubbish though.
 
Looks like a lot of people her don't know what "loss of liberty" means. Oh it's Friday and school's out already..aahhh now I see.
 
All my point was & is is that He should not receive Cash, I said reprimand Moj & any Staff that were negligent just giving him cash is over the line.
How is that talking rubbish ? :p
 
deuse said:
Looks like a lot of people her don't know what "loss of liberty" means. Oh it's Friday and school's out already..aahhh now I see.
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Liberty has literally hundreds of different meanings, if you wish to bundle the liberty (which broadly relates to control over ones self) & rights (expectations of treatment) then say so.

But your private definition is not the only one (or the one usually used by the rest of society) - even if it was correct which it isn't, it would still be fallacious as it's an argument based around the meaning of a term (entirely semantic) not about the context of the discussion or it's intricacies.
 
Because do not change due to the person and note should they. that is why it is rubbish.

The law was applied fairly.
You don't want the laws to be applied fairly, you want laws to be picked and distorted at your emotional whim. That is nonsense and you know it.
 
To be fair, the staff at prisons have a duty of care to prisoners to ensure they do not come to any harm whilst in their care.

However, with that in mind it would have been appropriate for the prison to be fined for failing in that duty of care, rather than awarding cash payouts to a convicted murderer.
 
Omaeka said:
Surely some guys in prison are never getting out? Why don't they just kill him, nothing to lose. :confused:
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Exactly. Why waste tax-payers' money on keeping this piece of excrement comfy in prison when a bullet costs pence. Bellfield is exactly the sort of 'person' that the death penalty should be re-instated for.
 
I don't want Any prisoners receiving compo not just nonces. Staff should be held to account for any failings but Convicted prisoners should not receive Cash & that's my opinion & I'm sticking to it. :D

What is funny is that I'm probably the only one here that has actually been inside. :p
 
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