5ghz stable 4930k Ht-on.

Tonester0011 · 5 Apr 2014 at 12:13

PCZ said:
Robert
You are creating a dilemma for yourself.
Choosing which things to be stable at and what to ignore failure on.

Drawing back from the ragged edge to a point where your PC passes any test you set it would be better don't you think ?
Is that extra 100/200 Mhz really worth it when you know that you have instability running certain tasks ?

The difference between say 4.8 and 4.6 is not game changing and the benefit to you is peace of mind.

As it stands when you do run into problems running certain apps you cant be sure it isn't your OC rather than some iffy code that is the issue.

If he's only got instability running Prime, and only prime...then it's a non issue. It's a task he'll never run on his computer as it has no benefit, so i honestly don't see the fuss.

If he was sending out a preoverclocked system, to a paying customer then i would agree with you, as their list of tasks are unknown and they might for whatever reason run p95 day to day for lulz. so shaving off 100-200mhz makes sense.

robertchalmers1 · 5 Apr 2014 at 13:09

Tonester0011 said:
If he's only got instability running Prime, and only prime...then it's a non issue. It's a task he'll never run on his computer as it has no benefit, so i honestly don't see the fuss.

If he was sending out a preoverclocked system, to a paying customer then i would agree with you, as their list of tasks are unknown and they might for whatever reason run p95 day to day for lulz. so shaving off 100-200mhz makes sense.

thats the problem, everyone is saying that its not stable as it cant rum p95

whyscotty · 5 Apr 2014 at 13:39

robertchalmers1 said:
thats the problem, everyone is saying that its not stable as it cant rum p95

If you play Prime - then it's important - otherwise why worry

robertchalmers1 · 5 Apr 2014 at 13:43

tbf its a game thats never really interested me, honestly dont see what all the fuss is about

PCZ · 5 Apr 2014 at 13:44

You can drop the clocks and be stable at everything or carry on being game stable.
It's your train set decide for yourself ?

If you cant envision a scenario where you would be making heavy use of the AVX instructions and your not having any crashing in games them carry on soldier.

8 Pack · 5 Apr 2014 at 13:46

Correct Doug!!! Prime no need!!!

wazza300 · 5 Apr 2014 at 13:47

sell me the chip,ill tell you if its stable

Tonester0011 · 5 Apr 2014 at 14:01

PCZ said:
You can drop the clocks and be stable at everything or carry on being game stable.
It's your train set decide for yourself ?

If you cant envision a scenario where you would be making heavy use of the AVX instructions and your not having any crashing in games them carry on soldier.

What happens if it's prime stable, and then crashes in games? Does he just leave it, because it's prime stable? I mean, it's prime stable! Clearly the game is at fault lol.

All prime stable means, is he can play prime without crashing. I'm not being funny, but that games is boring!! No achievements, no skill. Just click once and leave.

los · 5 Apr 2014 at 14:18

Did you not read before someone said it's not possible if it's prime stable that's it, even though many people have had it happen including me lol.
As long as it's stable for what you want is fine. If it runs for a month with No problem's it's stable in my eye's. If not then add more v, worst case downclock

PCZ · 5 Apr 2014 at 14:19

Tonester your post makes no sense.
I suggest you read the thread properly.

Discussion was about a system that is game stable but crashes in prime.
Much earlier in the thread were discusions on the opposite.

robertchalmers1 · 5 Apr 2014 at 14:19

Tonester0011 said:
What happens if it's prime stable, and then crashes in games? Does he just leave it, because it's prime stable? I mean, it's prime stable! Clearly the game is at fault lol.

All prime stable means, is he can play prime without crashing. I'm not being funny, but that games is boring!! No achievements, no skill. Just click once and leave.

thats what ive been trying to say , i can get it stable for 12 hours gaming but crashes quite quickly in p95. and yes the game is obv at fault as going by the masses until it can pass p95 the system is at fault

Tonester0011 · 5 Apr 2014 at 14:29

los said:
Did you not read before someone said it's not possible if it's prime stable that's it, even though many people have had it happen including me lol.
As long as it's stable for what you want is fine. If it runs for a month with No problem's it's stable in my eye's. If not then add more v, worst case downclock

I know, that's my point. I've not read most the thread, only the latest parts regarding robert. Don't tend to care much for these kinds of threads, because you always get the hardcore if it's not XYZ stable then its unstable! (skimmed first page, and that's all it is. tripe)

@PCZ, my posts are not regarding the OP.

PCZ · 5 Apr 2014 at 14:35

The thread was derailed early on by the usual suspects.

The OP claims that they can run P95 stable for long periods at 5Ghz on an IVY-e.
Obviously he has been somewhat called out on that.
Never was about if p95 was necessary, more someone claiming that there chip was a bit special.

wazza300 · 5 Apr 2014 at 14:45

use intel burn test instead,i don't even use prime tbh

5 runs ibt then the rest comes down to gaming and day to day usage

robertchalmers1 · 5 Apr 2014 at 14:50

PCZ said:
The thread was derailed early on by the usual suspects.

The OP claims that they can run P95 stable for long periods at 5Ghz on an IVY-e.
Obviously he has been somewhat called out on that.
Never was about if p95 was necessary, more someone claiming that there chip was a bit special.

exactly and no one can argue about that although i can understand why, that without pics many dont believe it. after all if i thought i had a super oc chip i would have been posting pics everywhere to prove it

PCZ · 5 Apr 2014 at 15:05

Yes I would be posting screenies.

I am interested as there is no way my 4930's can run heavy AVX code at 5Ghz.
One is a real dog and wont run handbrake at >4.3 without crashing.
The other one is a bit better but 4.5 is all I can push it to on long encodes.

jh30uk · 5 Apr 2014 at 16:25

PCZ this thread and the i7 one bellow it are ruined/off topic due to BS from peeps who claim stressing is not needed as they are too scared to try as they cannot pass on their unstable PC's.

So I am done reading both threads, pity as I was interested in both OP's findings but not reading BS.

robertchalmers1 · 5 Apr 2014 at 21:08

jh30uk said:
PCZ this thread and the i7 one bellow it are ruined/off topic due to BS from peeps who claim stressing is not needed as they are too scared to try as they cannot pass on their unstable PC's.

So I am done reading both threads, pity as I was interested in both OP's findings but not reading BS.

its ok saying its BS but as 8pak and numerous others say a pc is as stable as what you put it thru. if you dont use p95 why run it for stability.

can i ask you one question jh30uk, if my pc is stable with the stress tests listed above plus numerous hours of gaming, converting divx etc and does what i ask of it does that not make it a stable pc??? or is the now 1 and only way of making a pc stable by making it p95 stable???

robertchalmers1 · 5 Apr 2014 at 21:11

jh30uk said:
PCZ this thread and the i7 one bellow it are ruined/off topic due to BS from peeps who claim stressing is not needed as they are too scared to try as they cannot pass on their unstable PC's.

So I am done reading both threads, pity as I was interested in both OP's findings but not reading BS.

in fact any chance you could put up a couple of sticky guides on exactly how to overclock a cpu/gpu and exactly how to go about stress testing etc that way we can all overclock the professional way same as you do, incidentally what sort of clocks are you running????

jh30uk · 5 Apr 2014 at 21:24

If you actually were as smart as you are acting now and actually read thread fully and 100x I mentioned in other threrads you would see I have said I have a POS CPU so it is not clocked, I talked of my past builds.

Why quoted twice, use edit.

I know your name from somewhere and its bugging me but I know you act the same there.

I said I am done with the thread and you should stop derailing the OP's thread, I and no doubt he does not care what 8pack says nor do many here and I know that for a fact.