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5ghz stable 4930k Ht-on.

jh30uk said:
I said I am done with the thread and you should stop derailing the OP's thread, I and no doubt he does not care what 8pack says nor do many here and I know that for a fact.
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Normally when you're done with the thread, you don't come back lol.
As for 8packs opinion, i'd much rather take his, with his years of overclocking compared to yours (unknown, probably runs his current rig stock)
 
Why are you derailing the OP's topic (that is why I answered above post)?

I cannot clock this and if you read what I said you would know it, same crap batch as many have same issue with.

I will replace it with the refresh.

Over and out.
 
jh30uk said:
Why are you derailing the OP's topic (that is why I answered above post)?

I cannot clock this and if you read what I said you would know it, same crap batch as many have same issue with.

I will replace it with the refresh.

Over and out.
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Ironic thing with your post, it's not related to the OP and as such is derailing lol ;)
I'll be honest mate, don't pay much attention to anything you post as most is tripe :)
 
Anyone can overclock a computer, my 6 year old could, bump up the multiplier, if it cashes playing horrice goes sking, then ramp up the voltage.

It takes a pro to overclock a computer and make it prime / IBT / AIDA64 and 3D stable, it involves long hours of testing, tonnes of BSOD's, headaches, fine tweaking of voltages, memory timings and other tweaks, and of course beer.

My 4770k was the easiest CPU ive ever overclocked, took me just under a week to get it fully stable where it is now, its doing 4.6ghz @ 1.29v (happy to provide early proof for anyone who wants it) all under a custom water setup, TBH it was so easy, im bored now.

I agree with most of you, prime is not enough to test stability but in my books, its the best place to start, once your prime stable, then move onto the next test, the ones ive listed below are just 3 out of about 10 tests I run as well as every day use.

Ive had IBT crash after 50 passes
Ive had prime crash after 18 hours running.
Ive had mem test pick up errors at 6000%

Whats wrong with running these tests, if you not using your computer overnight then fire up a test and let it run overnight, providing your temps are ok of course, yes you may wake up to a BSOD, but then you tweak a bit more and run again the next night.
 
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Normally I would agree with stress testing for stability, however.

In the past I've passed P95 and failed IBT and vice versa.

Also had builds pass both, only to crash in game.

So the question is what is stable - for me it's everyday use which is gaming and benching for fun.

As both my setups (Haswell and SB-E) can do the above - they are stable for their intended use.

Just my 2c :)
 
Jamin280672 said:
I would love to know if it's you that builds the overclocked systems for overclockers, I'll make sure I never buy one going by this comment, your saying it's ok to sell unstable systems.

A system that corrupts data and is unstable to me is faulty, and requires returning to be repaired.
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No, he was saying whilst benching and doing your own overclock.

Don't be such an idiot, honestly. If you bought one of the 8-Pack systems from OCUK, it's not going to be a balls to the wall overclock. Do you honestly think they'd sell them like that? But if I was spending that much on a system, I'd want to go the extra mile myself.


I'm in agreement with 8-Pack, where by it's going to be a pretty good chip being able to boot at 5ghz with those volts, I can't see any proof that it's stable? Also what memory are you running / speed? You can understand why people would want to see more, as these chips on a tuned setup are difficult to pass 4.8 90% of the time (without extreme cooling)

Also just to note what the OP said regarding BF4, this game tends to show unstable overclocks more than most. If it's crashing BF4 regularly then the OC is 100% not stable.
 
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This is my experience with Ivy-E. And the best I can do within deemed safe voltage. And my chip is by no means a bad one!

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A stable CPU should be able to pass all tests just as they do at stock, there's no single definitive test but Prime95 (small/large fft) comes close.

If you can run Prime95 while looping something like Unigine Heaven you're pretty close to being stable, this simulates a game situation more closely where not only the processor is being loaded but you have a 300W graphics card taking power from the PSU and in most cases dumping heat into the case as well.

Another mistake people make is overclocking to the limit in winter or on cold days, then on warmer days it becomes unstable.
 
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I think the overall point is you want the machine to be stable with what you use it for. Sitting and watch it loop synthetic tests is just going to cook your chip for no reason.

When I first got my chip, if I had a blip, I'd take a quick sit back and up what voltage I thought seemed relevant. Which takes two seconds. Within a few days you've irradiated any instability. Taxing gaming provides a good blend of tests for all components. Obviously if you're not gaming, then vary the tests.

It's more common sense in all honesty, it really is.
 
MjFrosty said:
No, he was saying whilst benching and doing your own overclock.

Don't be such an idiot, honestly. If you bought one of the 8-Pack systems from OCUK, it's not going to be a balls to the wall overclock. Do you honestly think they'd sell them like that? But if I was spending that much on a system.
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Right, so lets say they sell an overclocked bundle, for example, a 4770k with mobo and ram overclocked to 4.6ghz, (Im saying this as without looking I don't know if they do or not), why buy one when I can quite easily do it myself, we all know that you pretty much have to have a lucky chip to do 4.6ghz+, so do you really think they sit there and open 10 or 20 CPU's until they get one that clocks to 4.6ghz fully stable ?

Or do you think they take a CPU off the shelf, stick it at 4.6ghz and run a couple of small tests like Heaven bench, and 3dMark to consider it stable.

Maybe you want to stop with you slang and actually sit back and think about it, doesn't take long, im sure 1 min of brain power is all that's required.
 
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They bin then that's why you pay more. Do you really think they would be in business if they sold £2000 computers they were unstable? Also it would cost them a fortune in p&p keep returning them plus labour costs swapping them out.
If they have one that won't clock to 4.6 then you sell it as a 4.4 or whatever it's stable at.
 
The 4.6ghz extreme bundles that ocuk sell feature delidded 4770k's therefore temps when stressing aren't a problem. At stock mine will hit the high 70's when using p95, 90's at 4.5ghz. Probably why Intel don't advise using such tests as they well know their shoddy paste job on theese chips isn't upto the job of cooling them.
 
Mine is priming right now, its currently doing 876k test, the hottest any core has got is 70oC, but in this test its hitting around the 60oC mark, also de-lidded, the only difference de-lidding did for me was drop the temps, I wasn't able to squeeze anymore out of my CPU, speed wise.

EDIT - priming and running all tests as I changed the RAM
 
Jamin280672 said:
Right, so lets say they sell an overclocked bundle, for example, a 4770k with mobo and ram overclocked to 4.6ghz, (Im saying this as without looking I don't know if they do or not), why buy one when I can quite easily do it myself, we all know that you pretty much have to have a lucky chip to do 4.6ghz+, so do you really think they sit there and open 10 or 20 CPU's until they get one that clocks to 4.6ghz fully stable ?

Or do you think they take a CPU off the shelf, stick it at 4.6ghz and run a couple of small tests like Heaven bench, and 3dMark to consider it stable.

Maybe you want to stop with you slang and actually sit back and think about it, doesn't take long, im sure 1 min of brain power is all that's required.
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You sir, are an idiot ;)
 
Jamin280672 said:
Anyone can overclock a computer, my 6 year old could, bump up the multiplier, if it cashes playing horrice goes sking, then ramp up the voltage.

It takes a pro to overclock a computer and make it prime / IBT / AIDA64 and 3D stable, it involves long hours of testing, tonnes of BSOD's, headaches, fine tweaking of voltages, memory timings and other tweaks, and of course beer.

My 4770k was the easiest CPU ive ever overclocked, took me just under a week to get it fully stable where it is now, its doing 4.6ghz @ 1.29v (happy to provide early proof for anyone who wants it) all under a custom water setup, TBH it was so easy, im bored now.

I agree with most of you, prime is not enough to test stability but in my books, its the best place to start, once your prime stable, then move onto the next test, the ones ive listed below are just 3 out of about 10 tests I run as well as every day use.

Ive had IBT crash after 50 passes
Ive had prime crash after 18 hours running.
Ive had mem test pick up errors at 6000%

Whats wrong with running these tests, if you not using your computer overnight then fire up a test and let it run overnight, providing your temps are ok of course, yes you may wake up to a BSOD, but then you tweak a bit more and run again the next night.
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Are you 4 real.
 
If you think any of their systems were sold unstable you'd here about it on the forums, paying 10k for a super computer to crash would spark outrage.


Also they bin the CPUs, the ones that make the grade are delidded to keep temps in check.
 
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