Looking to buy a BMW 525M 2010 above. Anybody have one here
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It's the same actual engine (N57), it's only 12bhp down. The economy improvements are mostly paper based at the NEDC test.
Revised engine models are considerably more expensive - nearer to £30k than sub £20k. Partly because almost all of them are M Sport whereas there are a more SE's available from 2010 as the M Sport wasn't sold until late 10.
Combox appeared from September 2010 production, not Sep 2011 so really it was just the stop/start (And Eco Pro mode etc), the minor power revision and whatever the suspension revisions were. Undoubtedly nice to have but not really an option unless your budget is literally double that of the OP with his £14k!
How are you getting on with yours, Dandle? 530d isnt it? Whats your typical fuel economy on a long run taken easy, out of interest?
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Since Dandle hasn't come back on this, I can share my experience today.
Not EXACTLY accurate, as I tend to only reset my trip counters at the end of the tank, for tank-to-tank economy calculations. However, I started off the run today on only circa 40 miles, at an average of 38.1 mpg.
By the end of the day, I was at 42 MPG over 165 miles. So a run of approximately 125 miles, about 35 of which was dual carriageway, around 20 - 30 miles of town driving, 15 - 20 miles B-Road, and the rest was A-road.
Guestimating around 43-44 mpg on the run, taking it easy. As in very little in the way of speeding, accelerating slowly, cruise on the dualler set to 75, coasting into 30 zones etc...
Not to shabby for a big 3.0d with only 8k on it. I'm sure I could get it better too if I was REALLY trying. I did once average 50 mpg in my 335d on a run from Dundee to Arbroath (actually a little further, circa 25 miles).
My last 4 full tanks have been calculated around the 40 mpg mark on average in fact (40.2, 39.8, 41.4 & 39.6).
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Slightly disappointing really, its almost as we've come absolutely nowhere with fuel economy in the last 10-15 years despite the fact that on paper we've come on leaps and bounds.
43-44 on a run taking it easy sounds very low for a diesel - you could get that out of a 530d 14 years ago and its only about 7mpg better than my 13 year old 530i!
I suspect an F10 528i wouldnt be far behind it really. Sadly though everyone is tricked by the brochure figures so there are no 528i's to buy.
43-44 on a run taking it easy sounds very low for a diesel - you could get that out of a 530d 14 years ago and its only about 7mpg better than my 13 year old 530i!
I suspect an F10 528i wouldnt be far behind it really. Sadly though everyone is tricked by the brochure figures so there are no 528i's to buy.
I don't really find it that disappointing. What I do find disappointing is the average real world consumption on the 2.0d. My old mans 320d for example, he averages just 46 mpg. He aint as fast a driver as me, so doubt he would be any less economical. So he is only 6 mpg better off, in a smaller, lighter, less well specced car with 1L less and 2 cylinders short.
As I said, I COULD get 50 mpg in my 335d. I'm sure I COULD get that in the 530d if I tried. I just gave my numbers for today (and the last 4 tanks), which are pretty much average driving (few overtaking maneuvers etc...), rather than trying for fuel economy (which probably would have seen cruise set to 60-65 on the dualler for example, which I'm sure would have made a considerable difference overall, along with a wrist-slitting drive of course).
As I said, I COULD get 50 mpg in my 335d. I'm sure I COULD get that in the 530d if I tried. I just gave my numbers for today (and the last 4 tanks), which are pretty much average driving (few overtaking maneuvers etc...), rather than trying for fuel economy (which probably would have seen cruise set to 60-65 on the dualler for example, which I'm sure would have made a considerable difference overall, along with a wrist-slitting drive of course).
I suppose that's fair enough, on a long distance run I always try for economy and set the cruise to the speed limit, etc etc. Most people don't so its hard to find comparative mpg figures. I've actually no idea what my 530i would do if I nailed it down a sliproad and sat in the outside lane at 85 for an entire trip, for example, as I don't tend to drive like that on the Motorway. Many people do, so quite a lot of 530d long distance MPG reports are of that sort of driving, for which I guess 40mpg is fairly impressive.
A few years ago I took my 530i on a 3000 mile trip around Europe as far out as Budapest, back through Austria, Switzerland and the Alps. Although most of the time my cruising speed was my usual 70mph, I did enjoy the alpine roads and I did take advantage of the Autobahn a few times to tick that box - I still averaged a calculated 35mpg for the entire trip, door to door.
I'd be wanting to be hitting high 40's on the same trip from a 530d. Like you I'm not actually THAT bothered about economy - if I get a 530d it'll be because all that's around to buy is 530d's (And the performance looks great) not because I need MPG, but I'll be disappointed if I can't waft it up to nearer 50mpg to offset the clattery dagdag noises around town.
A few years ago I took my 530i on a 3000 mile trip around Europe as far out as Budapest, back through Austria, Switzerland and the Alps. Although most of the time my cruising speed was my usual 70mph, I did enjoy the alpine roads and I did take advantage of the Autobahn a few times to tick that box - I still averaged a calculated 35mpg for the entire trip, door to door.
I'd be wanting to be hitting high 40's on the same trip from a 530d. Like you I'm not actually THAT bothered about economy - if I get a 530d it'll be because all that's around to buy is 530d's (And the performance looks great) not because I need MPG, but I'll be disappointed if I can't waft it up to nearer 50mpg to offset the clattery dagdag noises around town.
I guess with your driving style you will be able to get up to 50 mpg, probably without not to much worry.
Not so much for me. I bought my 335d when I sold my Audi S4, as they were knocking out similar power (about 340 BHP after a map on the 335d). So it wasn't getting driven particularly slowly. The 530d is no different. It isn't as quick, obviously, but it will get a map or similar once a more affordable unit becomes available.
I did have a look at the PPK for the 530d (not even sure if it's available in the UK), but it only takes the 530d up to around 286 BHP, same as the old 35d unit. Pretty sure the new engine is easily capable of 300+ so I'm waiting on that (AC Schnitzer claim 309 BHP from their tuning package, although I don't wish to upgrade the exhaust, as I wouldn't want the upgraded brakes from the BMW PPK necessarily, although the intercooler may be worth having.)
Basically, I'd ideally be wanting a hybrid conversion, lol. With the intercooler from PPK and engine tune from ACS.
Not so much for me. I bought my 335d when I sold my Audi S4, as they were knocking out similar power (about 340 BHP after a map on the 335d). So it wasn't getting driven particularly slowly. The 530d is no different. It isn't as quick, obviously, but it will get a map or similar once a more affordable unit becomes available.
I did have a look at the PPK for the 530d (not even sure if it's available in the UK), but it only takes the 530d up to around 286 BHP, same as the old 35d unit. Pretty sure the new engine is easily capable of 300+ so I'm waiting on that (AC Schnitzer claim 309 BHP from their tuning package, although I don't wish to upgrade the exhaust, as I wouldn't want the upgraded brakes from the BMW PPK necessarily, although the intercooler may be worth having.)
Basically, I'd ideally be wanting a hybrid conversion, lol. With the intercooler from PPK and engine tune from ACS.
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I'll do an economy run next week and let you know Fox, got a couple of long trips in the next few days.
Sorry its taken so long to reply, I meant to over the weekend but have been busy looking at houses to move.
My long term average since having the car is about 34mpg. To put that in a bit of perspective though I don't do great mileage in it and haven't even done many long runs in it since having it, my work trip is around 7 miles (its only just rolled over 20k so about 7.5k miles per year at the moment). My last 530d averaged 31mpg but that had a lot more 200+ mile runs than what this one has had with me averaging 10k per year in that one.
I personally don't think the figures are bad at all as I don't hang about by any means and cruise at failry high speeds when I am on the motorway. This 530d is also a lot quicker than the last one.
If taking it easy on a run it will run into the 40mpg area pretty easily and ecopro pushes the mpg up surprisingly as well, although it does make the car very boring so apart form trying it a few times I never really use that mode. On a motorway run with cruise I imagine there would be a lot more benefit without noticing the downsides.
My long term average since having the car is about 34mpg. To put that in a bit of perspective though I don't do great mileage in it and haven't even done many long runs in it since having it, my work trip is around 7 miles (its only just rolled over 20k so about 7.5k miles per year at the moment). My last 530d averaged 31mpg but that had a lot more 200+ mile runs than what this one has had with me averaging 10k per year in that one.
I personally don't think the figures are bad at all as I don't hang about by any means and cruise at failry high speeds when I am on the motorway. This 530d is also a lot quicker than the last one.
If taking it easy on a run it will run into the 40mpg area pretty easily and ecopro pushes the mpg up surprisingly as well, although it does make the car very boring so apart form trying it a few times I never really use that mode. On a motorway run with cruise I imagine there would be a lot more benefit without noticing the downsides.
Its not too bad my commute is pretty clear on A and B roads mainly with 5 sets of traffic lights, economy ranges from 29 in winter to 33 in the summer. I dont use stop/start either as I dont like the disruption of the motor restarting and the oil wouldn't be at full temp if I let it turn off as much as it wants to. If I did use it that would up the mpg a little too. I have tried a couple of times to run the car on a whole tank with ecopro and stop start but I got bored and turned them off each time.
Plenty of time for that when im old
. On that note my insurance has dropped £230 this year, not sure if thats because I am old, three points have gone or the combination of both.