best performance diesel >6k?

half the mileage, triple the spec.
Turbo petrol and reasonable economy.

...and completely irrelevant as over budget.

Not sure what you are getting at with this. Of course a £5300 car will be newer and in a better specification than a comparable car of £2000 less.

I suppose I'm 'lol gay' for owning a PS3 and not an Xbox too?
 
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Ford make some great cars, nothing wrong with the Focus.


Wrong!

Ford are great when new, nice cars I would agree.

They are however not in the same ball park as VAG in the build quality department - including corrosion.

(maybe SEAT excepted)
 
Is it?

Offer him 5k and see what happens.

I have a horrible feeling you have a Skoda and are failing to see anything that is not a VAG to have any merit.
The Focus is there as an example. A similar Astra/Leon/Octavia would do. A complete bargain would be a circa 2004 Toledo 1.8T. Super cheap to buy and is essential a golf with a boot and Seat badge.

It is never a good idea to spank every last penny you have on a higher specification vehicle when you earn just £800 per month.
 
I have a horrible feeling you have a Skoda and are failing to see anything that is not a VAG to have any merit.
The Focus is there as an example. A similar Astra/Leon/Octavia would do.

It is never a good idea to spank every last penny you have on a higher specification vehicle when you earn just £800 per month.

I have had nearly every make of car there is until I discovered VAG.

I do all my own repairs and servicing and in my opinion the Octavia is worlds ahead of Ford or Vauxhall!

(I've forgotten what corrosion is!)
 
OP, short of money.

VFM is important.

There is 10 years left in the Octavia.

Plus full leather, heated seats, Xenons, auto wipers, auto lights, dual climate, fog lights, 17" alloys, 35k miles, full history, one owner, decent running costs (including insurance), decent performance.

You get the idea.
 
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Low pressure turbo tuned for almost 50mpg. ;)

Will beat a NA petrol any day of the week.

The Audi/VW 1.8T lumps were slow vs 150bhp NA 12 years ago and nothing has changed since other than there still using the same basic old 1.8 turbos that were invented in the late 1990's... i could get a 1989 astra GTE to do 35mpg and that lump was a cobble lump

They messed up the 1.8t 20v so much every one back in the GTTDI days totally just ditched them for the TDI's till VW un screwed themselves to make it so the derv was not as fast.
We did some tests with the mk4 golfs back in the day with crap like the 1.8 20v NA golf and the 20v t and there was not much in it to say the N/A one did 40-45mpg no probs and had less things that could brake on it.

I do like skoda some one linked but for some one on 800 a month i don't know what he will do if something on it broke....
 
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The Audi/VW 1.8T lumps were slow vs 150bhp NA 12 years ago and nothing has changed since other than there still using the same basic old 1.8 turbos that were invented in the late 1990's... i could get a 1989 astra GTE to do 35mpg and that lump was a cobble lump

They messed up the 1.8t 20v so much every one back in the GTTDI days totally just ditched them for the TDI's till VW un screwed themselves to make it so the derv was not as fast.
We did some tests with the mk4 golfs back in the day with crap like the 1.8 20v NA golf and the 20v t and there was not much in it to say the N/A one did 40-45mpg no probs and had less things that could brake on it.

It's a different engine.

It's the new 1.8 TFSI (TSi) 16v
 
It's a different engine.

It's the new 1.8 TFSI (TSi) 16v


Yer dam i am getting old.... i am still thinking TSI's are like still brand new thing and not in a 5k price range.

(its not the cool 230-270+ bhp TSI like you get in things like audi allroads and GTI's and and TT's and stuff so yer.)
 
Yer dam i am getting old.... i am still thinking TSI's are like still brand new thing and not in a 5k price range.

(its not the cool 230-270+ bhp TSI like you get in things like audi allroads and GTI's and and TT's and stuff so yer.)

I will admit to being biased (I have one)

But I think you would be hard pressed to find a better car for 5k than the example I linked (it's nicer than mine).
 
I will admit to being biased (I have one)

But I think you would be hard pressed to find a better car for 5k than the example I linked (it's nicer than mine).

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...0/maximum-mileage/up_to_50000_miles?logcode=p

If that's half as nice as my E38 735i then it would be a nicer car to drive and sit in and be part of than some VAG copy of last years models.

OP DON'T BUY A 7 lol the repair bills are daft///// i had the alt changed on mine a few years back and it was close to 2k as just a taster of what a 50k car costs to own.
 
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