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Ivy/Haswell IHS adhesive

I de-lidded and lapped my 3770K, I had shocking temps beforehand. I researched the thinnest razor blades. Wilkinson Sword double sided blades are very thin and very sharp.

If you're going to do it take your double sided blade and use insulation tape on the side of the blade that you will be holding, you have more control and won't cut yourself. Be very gentle, take your time and the razor goes through like a hot knife through butter.

Once the IHS is off I removed all of the adhesive from the IHS but left the CPU/PCB alone to prevent the risk of damage. Use a non-conductive paste when you re-install the CPU, MX-2, MX-4 or Gelid Extreme. You will be happy with the results, just be sure to take your time.

Here's a couple of pictures, I wish I had taken more snaps.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img43/3861/mu58.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img203/6695/gkkz.png
 
Bart_Hunt said:
Can you use clu pads on delidded cpu?
With naked ivy/watercooling.
These:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=TH-007-CL&groupid=701&catid=27

Cheers
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I would definitely not use a liquid metal solution for contact between the CPU DIE and IHS, liquid metal is conductive. Use MX-4, this is non conductive.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=TH-003-AR

If you fancy experimenting with liquid metal between the IHS and CPU cooler, go for it. Do some reading first though. You have to get it just right when applying. ie booting the pc with no cooling until the CPU hits a certain temp, around 95c usually (dependant on what each manufacturer recommends).

Personally I would use MX-4 for both. Someone else maye come and disagree and give good reason but that's my look on it. :)
 
You're ok using liquid metal direct die, it's what most people have been using to be honest to get best temperatures. Just don't get it anywhere else on the PCB.
 
Jokester said:
You're ok using liquid metal direct die, it's what most people have been using to be honest to get best temperatures. Just don't get it anywhere else on the PCB.
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This is certainly true. But you do just the risk of it leaking onto the PCB. I achieved awesome results with Gelid Extreme for DIE to IHS, and IHS to CPU block. You have to be real careful with liquid metal on a de-lidded chip. Most won't listen to a single thing I have to say because I've only been here 5 minutes, but I'm cool with that.. :)
 
Jokester said:
You're ok using liquid metal direct die, it's what most people have been using to be honest to get best temperatures. Just don't get it anywhere else on the PCB.
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I read some topics on de-lidding and someone mentioned using some nail laquer around the cpu die, some guy used very thin layer of silicon.
Tbh those pads arent really luquid, they look like gpu thermal pads but are thinner.
I would have course have to cut them to size.
I started thinking about delidding after experimenting with my 4770k a bit and I may actually have pretty decent chip - if I can bring it to lower temps.
 
Look at the temps I'm running in post #13. Is it really worth the risk to get cooler than that? I never see temps above mid-late 40's while gaming @ 4.7GHz. Its all about mounting the his and cpu cooler correct!
 
It's only on haswell chips you have to take card due to a line of resistors next to the die,liquid pro is fine to use and you don't have to worry on ivybridge as there's just the die

I've used mx4 and temps were exactly the same as before,you need liquid pro to see big results
 
wazza300 said:
It's only on haswell chips you have to take card due to a line of resistors next to the die,liquid pro is fine to use and you don't have to worry on ivybridge as there's just the die

I've used mx4 and temps were exactly the same as before,you need liquid pro to see big results
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I dropped 18c at load when I de-lidded my ivy chip. When you say "to see big results" what do you class as a big result? I thought 18c was a massive drop....
 
wazza and andiuk - when you both say delidded do you mean taken off, TIM replaced and lid put back on, or lid off and kept off? I'm guessing andiuk means the latter while wazza means the former? Could be wrong of course.
 
I'm thinking about scalping mine, replacing the paste with CLU then lightly gluing the IHS back on with this:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/popup_image.php?prodid=TH-005-AC

I've read once CLU or CLP is in place, the last thing you want to do is move the IHS.
Was thinking this would save me reapplying and might help in the future if I decide to sell it on.

Have bought a pack of 100 plastic razor blades, hopefully these will be thin and sharp enough to get the job done safely. Was the smallest box I can find. Will check them out when they arrive and if anyone is interested I can forward some on.
 
If you delid what's the point of putting the IHS back on?

I don't know if people remember Pentium II/IIIs, but the heatsink went straight on the die. I'm about to do this.

x5ywqg.jpg
 
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andiuk007 said:
Funny you should mention that, I have been looking for a safe solution today to use the block direct to the die without running the risk of bending the socket pins. Something like this would be ideal, I can't find anything similar for sale at any retailers.

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?p=3540695
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Yip, I will be keeping an eye out for 1 of those either on ebay or via retailers once those boards are released. I dare say MSI would supply 1 for a small price if you asked nicely enough.

Haven't delidded yet, but I may give it a bash at some point. Would only ever do it and keep lid off, so that die guard would be ideal and prevent damage to the die during the mounting process.
 
Five.Stars said:
Yip, I will be keeping an eye out for 1 of those either on ebay or via retailers once those boards are released. I dare say MSI would supply 1 for a small price if you asked nicely enough.

Haven't delidded yet, but I may give it a bash at some point. Would only ever do it and keep lid off, so that die guard would be ideal and prevent damage to the die during the mounting process.
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If you find them anythere I wouldn't mind the heads up. :)

Jokester said:
EK do something similar for their waterblocks.
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Does the EK one prevent the socket pins from damage pal?
 
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