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humbug said:
Thats clutching at straws, Valley and Heaven 4 favour Nvidia, if all you want it for is the Bench Synthetic applications then the extra £70 for the 780 might be worth it to you, whats more they are no more reliable than your so called "Paid off reviewers" with Bencher's constantly trying to out do eachother there is no guarantee that none of them are Driver IQ hacking to gain points over a rival.
Nor is using hacked BIOS and setting the GPU on a suicide run anything like normal everyday usage.

Saying Reviewers should be ignored is one thing, but trying pass off the benching that goes in around here as representative of normal everyday 24/7 use is a stretch way to far.
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Are you sure I am clutching at straws? You was the one who said "We can argue all day about which reviewers and benchmarks should be taken as fact" but showing user results is clear fact and that is that. Nothing more to say on it. Unless you feel cheating is going on, they are the best results and fairest results we can get.

I fully expect to see some stupid gifs/jpg's soon but the fact is, user bench runs regardless of air or water give a fair reflection of what is what. Who is to say that someone isn't ever going to water cool? I never thought I would and now look at me.
 
Gregster said:
Are you sure I am clutching at straws? You was the one who said "We can argue all day about which reviewers and benchmarks should be taken as fact" but showing user results is clear fact and that is that. Nothing more to say on it. Unless you feel cheating is going on, they are the best results and fairest results we can get.

I fully expect to see some stupid gifs/jpg's soon but the fact is, user bench runs regardless of air or water give a fair reflection of what is what. Who is to say that someone isn't ever going to water cool? I never thought I would and now look at me.
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I can agree but posting user benchmarks that are on water and pushed to the limit in no way should be used to show a normal gamer what is to be expected over a good few hours of gaming. You should at least be able to agree on that. Getting your card through a benchmark with artifacts everywhere is no where close to sitting down and playing a game on standard air cooling.
 
TheRealDeal said:
I can agree but posting user benchmarks that are on water and pushed to the limit in no way should be used to show a normal gamer what is to be expected over a good few hours of gaming. You should at least be able to agree on that. Getting your card through a benchmark with artifacts everywhere is no where close to sitting down and playing a game on standard air cooling.
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None of my benchmarks had artifacts :p
 
Gregster said:
Are you sure I am clutching at straws? You was the one who said "We can argue all day about which reviewers and benchmarks should be taken as fact" but showing user results is clear fact and that is that. Nothing more to say on it. Unless you feel cheating is going on, they are the best results and fairest results we can get.

I fully expect to see some stupid gifs/jpg's soon but the fact is, user bench runs regardless of air or water give a fair reflection of what is what. Who is to say that someone isn't ever going to water cool? I never thought I would and now look at me.
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You said reviewers are paid off and pointed to the benchmarks on this forum.

Your saying reviewers are not to be trusted (just 'coincidently' because they happen to show the 290 at least as fast as the 780, right?)
But you do want us to believe that no one fighting a rival in those benchmark threads are using IQ Driver hacks to push their points up, and that those results are representative of normal every day.

You should stand back and read what you write as the third person from time to time.
 
TheRealDeal said:
I can agree but posting user benchmarks that are on water and pushed to the limit in no way should be used to show a normal gamer what is to be expected over a good few hours of gaming. You should at least be able to agree on that. Getting your card through a benchmark with artifacts everywhere is no where close to sitting down and playing a game on standard air cooling.
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Stop speaking sense god damit.

whyscotty said:
None of my benchmarks had artifacts :p
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Is that the same for everyone? :p
 
I seem to remember rumours that Gregg blew up a Titan but he did not, so either BS or another users did so.

I tried to blow mines up but could not find where to connect this :


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@ TheRealDeal , I will sell you it cheap for your rubber dolly or AMD sheepie! ;)
 
TheRealDeal said:
I can agree but posting user benchmarks that are on water and pushed to the limit in no way should be used to show a normal gamer what is to be expected over a good few hours of gaming. You should at least be able to agree on that. Getting your card through a benchmark with artifacts everywhere is no where close to sitting down and playing a game on standard air cooling.
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Right, just for you I went through a few of the "game" bench's to see what was what and here is the results.

Air cooled 780 (only a 290X that IS water cooled is faster)

10. Score 84.8, GPU 780 @1400/1850, CPU 3770k @5.0 Geeman1979 Link

Air cooled 780 beating all the water cooled 290's/X's

10. Geeman1979 - 780 @1385/1900, 331.65. 78.9

Air cooled 780 only being beaten by a water cooled 290X

10. Score 56.3 GPU 780 @1280/1852, CPU i7 960 @4.2, triss Link

Air cooled 780 only being beaten by water cooled 290X's

6. Score 142.12 GPU 780 @1215/1781, CPU 3570k @ 4.4, IanEvey Link

Air cooled 780 only being beaten by a water cooled 290X

2. Score 124.02 GPU 780 @1411/1900, CPU 3770k, @4.5, Geeman1979 Link
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Can't really see what your point is and Air cooled is kicking butt all round :D
 
Gregster said:
Right, just for you I went through a few of the "game" bench's to see what was what and here is the results.



Can't really see what your point is and Air cooled is kicking butt all round :D
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Yep all those clocks i see are stable for gaming. You forget while benching especially one run Nvidia hardware boost's way higher than they do when warmed up. Again bench results mean little when thinking about 2-3 hours of gaming.
 
TheRealDeal said:
Yep all those clocks i see are stable for gaming. You forget while benching especially one run Nvidia hardware boost way higher than they do when warmed up. Again bench results mean little when thinking about 2-3 hours of gaming.
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So you only want to use stock clocks now? Well I guess you should stick to the paid reviewers and I will stick to what I use and ascertain to be correct. Like I said many times, I am not trying to sell anything and giving people a fair reflection of what is what.
 
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