How judgemental are you to parents?

anything I don't mind said:
It would not solve the problem completely as people will still have children irresponsibility but when they know there is no satefy net and they will be forced to look after the children.
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Or they'll even further neglect their children. You assume that lack of money will prevent children being born - it doesn't otherwise we'd already see that effect (indeed the evidence shows the contrary) and that further lack of cash will mean parents will make more of an effort to look after their children. Neither are true.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Or they'll even further neglect their children. You assume that lack of money will prevent children being born - it doesn't otherwise we'd already see that effect (indeed the evidence shows the contrary) and that further lack of cash will mean parents will make more of an effort to look after their children. Neither are true.
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Indeed, it amazes me that people think that everyone else follows the same set out logic for doing things they do, despite being in completely different worlds.

"I don't have kids because I can't afford them that way if we take away the ability for people to have kids they won't have them", mean while poor people across the earth have sky high birth rates in comparison to the privileged few posting here.... but who needs evidence when you have such air tight logic right!
 
Terminal_Boy said:
Modern parents: Either let their kids run riot because they "don't want to stifle their development with rules" or engage in a conversation with a 3 year old as to why they shouldn't do X which has about the same effect as reading the user manual for your lawn mower to your cat.
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The former I've noticed much more in middle class parents. The later amuses me as I've seen it more and more and it's somewhat pointless.

Anyway, as a parent I describe other people's children as "undisciplined, germ carrying ****s" :D
 
Parents can be bad at both ends of the spectrum.

There are the the parents that neglect, abuse or basically don't give a damn about there children or how they behave.

At the other end of the spectrum, there is the parent who is basically on a power trip and clamps down on every pathetic rule concerning their children's behavior.
 
Oh I judge the **** out of parents, lots of people have kids without the faintest idea of what discipline means.

They just spoil their kids rotten and let them do what they want in order to be liked, then when the kids are badly behaved or going nowhere "It's not their fault, must be the teachers/ society/ something else, they're so bright it's probably just ADHD"

Or they brush something off "It's just a phase, I was like that and I turned out ok so I'll just leave them to it" and what they fail to realise is it was their parents discipline which altered their behaviour during that phase.

Parents seem to have forgotten being a parent isn't about getting your kids to like you, it's hard work, it's pushing your kid to do whats best for themselves - to work hard, contribute to the house, teaching them right/ wrong and showing them all the skills they'll need in life.
 
I've only felt public shame once when a young mother was swearing, very loudly multiple times, at her toddler that was crying in the pram...

poor woman was probably close to losing it, not sure how ended had to get off the bus a few stops after... Plenty of older women tutting and passing comments but none to the mum....

i do think there is too much modern emphasis on letting kids run wild, Aka Develop without interference.

Just to add it in there, how about smacking kids? Im not a parent but like training a dog a short sharp tug of their choke chain teaches discipline and wrong from right???

controvertial... i doubt anyone will admit to hitting their kids, i was hit though sore bum plenty of time (no... you pervs) fear of a whack did me no harm.. im serious...
 
There are a lot of bad parents out there simple as and I often wonder why they even bothered having kids.

I'm not a parent myself but hey I held a baby once or something... (I'm actually NVQ qualified in childcare).

Efour said:
Just to add it in there, how about smacking kids? Im not a parent but like training a dog a short sharp tug of their choke chain teaches discipline and wrong from right???
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Nothing wrong with using it to reinforce discipline as an appropriate measure problem is the parents who basically beat their children into submission because they won't do exactly what they want when they want even when its small things.
 
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Efour said:
Just to add it in there, how about smacking kids? Im not a parent but like training a dog a short sharp tug of their choke chain teaches discipline and wrong from right???

controvertial... i doubt anyone will admit to hitting their kids, i was hit though sore bum plenty of time (no... you pervs) fear of a whack did me no harm.. im serious...
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I have yet to come across a situation where hitting my child would serve any useful purpose. If they are too young to reason with then hitting them doesn't really teach them anything and removing them from a dangerous situation seems more appropriate.

If they are old enough to reason with then what exactly does hitting a child do other than make them fear you?

Its not like the kids that you tend to have the most problems with are never hit, generally the opposite.
 
RDM said:
I have yet to come across a situation where hitting my child would serve any useful purpose. If they are too young to reason with then hitting them doesn't really teach them anything and removing them from a dangerous situation seems more appropriate.

If they are old enough to reason with then what exactly does hitting a child do other than make them fear you?

Its not like the kids that you tend to have the most problems with are never hit, generally the opposite.
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The vast majority of children don't need it, you'll always get some though who need discipline reinforced. Problem is the parents who turn to it as a substitute to actual parenting.
 
Rroff said:
The vast majority of children don't need it, you'll always get some though who need discipline reinforced. Problem is the parents who turn to it as a substitute to actual parenting.
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But if you can enforce discipline more effectively through other means then why hit a child at all? I am struggling to think of a situation where hitting a child is the most appropriate response.
 
Children aren't inherently bad. 99.9% of the time it's the parents at fault (unless the child has proper mental problems etc.) But I should point out at this point that I absolutely hate children, and there's no way I ever want any myself. Ever.


Back to the OP, I'm a bad person and judge people. Last year I got on a plane for a 9.5hour flight and took my seat. I was fortunate enough to be sitting at the pointy end in First Class. Then as the last people to board, a couple with a baby got on board. Now for a short flight I'd possibly put up with it. And in coach class I'd expect a thousand screaming children. But for a nine hour flight in first class, you can imagine when I say that my heart sank at the sight of a child. Yes I've got a seat that folds flat and a duvet etc, but it's going to be spoiled by a screaming brat.
Thinking about it, I'd seen them in the Concorde Lounge before boarding. But I'd been too busy getting lashed to notice them.
Well I have to say… I was pleasantly surprised. The cabin crew setup a cot, and not a peep was heard from the baby throughout the flight apart from a minute at each end when its ears were popping. I probably made more noise in total.
When I got off at the end I felt a bit ashamed to be honest. When I'd seen them get on I'd been all "Argh I can't stand babies, why do the parents have to travel with it and can't they go sit near someone else". But I'd been extremely judgmental and it had behaved impeccably. Credit to the parents and shame on me TBH.
 
Whilst I form opinions, I don't voice them directly to them, as some old **** did with me at the weekend, as I don't know the full story.

I have a 2 year old. They sometimes scream. They sometimes paddy. They sometimes throw themselves on the floor. I was with my child in public when he was doing all three. I was calm, I was dealing with it as I saw fit. FWIW he was pushing boundaries trying to get a go on a ride that was broken in an amusements at the coast.

So some ****head complaining as loudly as he can at bad parenting and then running away when I challenged him to explain himself can keep his stupid opinions to himself.
 
You can tell the parents that don't really put much effort into their kids from the ones that do - There's just something about them that's off from the get go and that's only reinforced once the start talking down to their kids etc out in public.

Anyway, I thought of this trhead just as I was watching this week's Bones where Brennan says

I believe on some level our parents are supposed to disappoint us so that we can surpass them and improve the species... An evolutionary necessity.
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I suppose on some level she's right.
 
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Gilly said:
So some ****head complaining as loudly as he can at bad parenting and then running away when I challenged him to explain himself can keep his stupid opinions to himself.
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+1

People should mind their own business.

Those who attempt to meddle in my affairs have a far shorter life expectancy
 
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