Employees belongings searches.

My contract forbids an employee to bring alcohol onto the premises without first informing a manager and consumption on the premises is completely forbidden.

We don't know if that is the case in the op though.

It's not as simple as that. Legality doesn't always dictate right/wrong because some things are outlawed for economic reasons or to satisfy governmental greed (cannabis included). Therefore judging someone for having a bit of weed is utter hypocrisy if you know you're going to be chilling out with a glass of alcohol later. Doesn't matter how bad the government tells you it is, it's only bad for them because it's untaxable cash flow - which is why you shouldn't base your reasoning on what the government does or doesn't allow you to do.

It is that simple, one can get the business into big trouble, the other can't. It's not about morality it's about management not wanting the business to be shut down because illegal drugs are found on the premises.
 
We don't know if that is the case in the op though.
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Sorry I should have updated the op rather than posting new info in subsequent posts.

The contract has no stipulations regarding drugs or alcohol. Nor does it mention the employer exercising their right to search.

Ill post up the contract later on when I see my sister later if its of interest to anyone(minus identifying details obviously).
 
It's not as simple as that. Legality doesn't always dictate right/wrong because some things are outlawed for economic reasons or to satisfy governmental greed (cannabis included). Therefore judging someone for having a bit of weed is utter hypocrisy if you know you're going to be chilling out with a glass of alcohol later. Doesn't matter how bad the government tells you it is, it's only bad for them because it's untaxable cash flow - which is why you shouldn't base your reasoning on what the government does or doesn't allow you to do.

If someone devised a way to get a 2 litres of high grade vodka per sq foot per month using nothing but light and water it would be outlawed within 42 minutes.
It really is just as simple as that. Companies are generally interested in compliance, which includes the law, which says that cannabis is illegal.
 
It really is just as simple as that. Companies are generally interested in compliance, which includes the law, which says that cannabis is illegal.

And that justifies sacking, how?

If you find something illegal and you want it dealt with you notify relevant authorities who would have tried recouping a minuscule amount of the lost tax by asking him to pay a £90 fine.

Now all you have is a jobless man, and the government didn't have the chance to take £90 off him too.
 
And that justifies sacking, how?

Because it can severely damage the business, it is not difficult to see that having illegal substances on the premises can cause problems. Police searching and disrupting the establishment, damaged reputation, attracting other undesirable activities on the premises, or even potentially contaminating the food.

It's just common decency not to bring that kind of trouble into someones home or business.
 
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Because it can severely damage the business, it is not difficult to see that having illegal substances on the premises can cause problems. Police searching and disrupting the establishment, damaged reputation, attracting other undesirable activities on the premises, or even potentially contaminating the food.

It's just common decency not to bring that kind of trouble into someones home or business.

If police had a warrant to search the premises it would not be for the bag of weed. The bag of weed would actually be the least of her concern. In fact it would be the one thing which she could look at and honestly say "That's got nothing to do with me."

;)

or even potentially contaminating the food.

:D

This is what caused the sacking ladies and gentlemen. Utter ignorance about cannabis. How on earth can a bud of weed escape from a locked locker and jump into a saucepan?

Poor dude probably enjoyed having a spliff on the way home from work, all that was needed was a little reminder that its not allowed on premises even if its locked up. I hope the dude was actually crap at his job, because if he was remotely good it's a complete shame.
 
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Give ACAS a call.

The search was bad, but you are only protected from unfair dismissal after 2 years.

Once it is clear that the manager was way off, the mere threat of a tribunal may make them roll over and beg.
 
Unfair dismissal is still valid in some cases before the 2 year period.

Id smash them right into court citing unfair dismissal and discrimination (if he was the only one who had his stuff searched).
 
It's not as simple as that. Legality doesn't always dictate right/wrong because some things are outlawed for economic reasons or to satisfy governmental greed (cannabis included). Therefore judging someone for having a bit of weed is utter hypocrisy if you know you're going to be chilling out with a glass of alcohol later. Doesn't matter how bad the government tells you it is, it's only bad for them because it's untaxable cash flow - which is why you shouldn't base your reasoning on what the government does or doesn't allow you to do.

If someone devised a way to get a 2 litres of high grade vodka per sq foot per month using nothing but light and water it would be outlawed within 42 minutes.
That's all well and good - but it's completely irrelevant from the company's point of view. Illegal = bad as far as they and their procedures and PR are concerned.
 
Lol didn't considering the wording guess I asked for that :D

Not my job ill never go back into retail.

Personally I don't think there's anything wrong with canabis its like anything else ok in moderation.
 
-appears the employee was specifically targeted.

It's feels as if the dude was going into work a bit too stoned and they knew what to look for.

Did he used to smell of weed or have red eyes? I wouldn't want that in my establishment either. Especially if you're dealing with customers face to face. You could get away with it in an office.
 
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How I imagine asim:

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;) On a serious note, where is Burnsy to lay some knowledge/experience on us?
 
It's feels as if the dude was going into work a bit too stoned and they knew what to look for.

Did he used to smell of weed or have red eyes? I wouldn't want that in my establishment either. Especially if you're dealing with customers face to face. You could get away with it in an office.

Apparently he didn't smoke before or during work. Sisters worked there as long as him and didn't even know he smoked weed so I'm guessing not.

(Admittedly she is rather thick).
 
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