David Moyes disgracefully sacked

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Don't get me wrong danny, I like him too. I wanted him to succeed and I would have appointed him a year ago as well with the expectation that he would make the step up to managing United (no disrespect meant, but like you said the pressure and expectations are totally different).

Understood, he was never going to get the sack at Everton. Survival was enough for most. I pity the managers that follow Martinez that's for sure....
 
Don't get me wrong danny, I like him too. I wanted him to succeed and I would have appointed him a year ago as well with the expectation that he would make the step up to managing United (no disrespect meant, but like you said the pressure and expectations are totally different).

I don't dislike him either and I do think he's a good manager but the step up was just far too big. He's looked completely out of his depth at every turn.

Not sure I would have appointed him to start with though, but I accepted it.
 
When he was first appointed I was stunned that we were getting a manager who had never won anything. .

Rodgers never won anything except a play off final, yet here he is about to make Jose look stupid. People get too hung up on whether they have won anything rather than the style of football and tactics they will employ and how they can improve the players they have. That's where moyes has failed while rodgers has thrived.
 
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Rodgers never won anything except a play off final, yet here he is about to make Jose look stupid. People get too hung up on whether they have won anything rather than the style of football and tactics they will employ and how they can improve the players they have. That's where moyes has failed while rodgers has thrived.

That's where Rodgers was a natural fit with a bigger club and Moyes wasn't. Moyes is suited to managing smaller club, he never showed anything that you could see being easily transferred to Utd.
 
Rodgers never won anything except a play off final, yet here he is about to make Jose look stupid.

There is a difference between Liverpool and Man Utd.
Man Utd were the reigning champs, still in the process of setting records.
Liverpool were a team who hadnt won the league for decades and are no longer considered the best (though this may change this year).

If Man Utd go 20 years without winning the league, our stock will reduce and we will no longer be able to attract the biggest names in football management. In 2013 though, as reigning champions we had the right to hire the absolute best.

Lesson: if you can buy the best. Buy the best.
Man Utd (even now), can buy the best.
 
A play off final isn't a major trophy. Its like coming third in the world cup. The best of the losers. Actually it's not even as major as third in the world cup :D

I get where you're coming from, and yes, you're right in that it's not a legendary trophy like the FA cup, but in money terms, it's a major trophy for sure, no question about it.

Including all TV rights, gate receipts and possible parachute payments over the course of 4 years, etc, the play off final can be worth up to an extra £150 million for the club that wins it.

Not only that they also get to play in maybe the most watched league in the world, a reward with massive prestige irrespective of any financial gain.

For winning that Playoff Trophy, they get almost as much reward as the league champions do, so yes it's a major trophy in my definition.

3rd place in the World Cup, in real terms, is actually of a lot less consequence than the Championship Play Off. Symbolically, it's far more important, but not in real terms at all.

I can't be certain but I'm pretty sure the Championship Play Off final is a bigger guaranteed financial reward than winning the League Cup, if not the F.A Cup too, and possibly both combined a few times over.

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